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On Jul 4, 8:33 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 04:29:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> in alt.atheism:
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> >On Jul 3, 10:59 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> > On Jul 3, 5:32?pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> >> > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > >news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >> > > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> >> > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> >> > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in
> >> > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
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> >> > > > ===========
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> >> > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is
> >> > > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
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> >> > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. ?However, atheists claim
> >> > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
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> >> > > ==========
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> >> > > Sin is a social construct. ?It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped
> >> > > ... or not, as the case may be.
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> >> > Well, there is no sin in heaven.  Maybe that is why atheists do not
> >> > want to go there.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge !
> >> 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know there
> >> is no sin there?
> >> 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to
> >> heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text -
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> >Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been
> >cleansed of sin.  All atheists I have conversed with have told me they
> >do not want to enter heaven.
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> Telling you that heaven does not exist does not mean that they don't
> want to go there, merely that they aren't going to waste their time
> hoping for a future in the afterlife when there are things to be done
> now.
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> The afterlife is a fake.

I would have thought that the heaven where all are controlled is more
totalitarian than any system on earth? I dread to know the condition
of those choose to be there when they are not free to speak, to do
things they want, etc.
There are always price to pay, in any system, or heaven. As the saying
goes: Nothing comes free.