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Article #14077Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:53
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:53
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On Jul 5, 1:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 4, 3:06 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > >>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > >>>>> =========== > >>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > >>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > >>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim > >>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > >>>> ========== > >>>> Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped > >>>> ... or not, as the case may be. > >>> Well, there is no sin in heaven. Maybe that is why atheists do not > >>> want to go there. > >> It's more true to say that by removing what you loosely term sin, you > >> arrive at a place you loosely call heaven. > > >> However it is only one point on a certain map: there are many other > >> places to visit.. > > >> As the Jewish mystics were well aware.. > > > Well, for instance, you could visit hell. Why anyone would want to > > visit hell, I do not know. > > Oh dear. tere are at least 22 places in 4different planes, apart from > the qlipoth, on the kabbalsiic maps, none of which is hell. Hell is a > pagan European invention. > > > Robert B. Winn Well, I guess all people are the same. Why would ancient European being more advance also invent lies to con other people?
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