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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:53
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On Jul 5, 1:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 4, 3:06 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in
> >>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell.
> >>>>> ===========
> >>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is
> >>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality ....
> >>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim
> >>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent.
> >>>> ==========
> >>>> Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped
> >>>> ... or not, as the case may be.
> >>> Well, there is no sin in heaven.  Maybe that is why atheists do not
> >>> want to go there.
> >> It's more true to say that by removing what you loosely term sin, you
> >> arrive at a place you loosely call heaven.
>
> >> However it is only one point on a certain map: there are many other
> >> places to visit..
>
> >> As the Jewish mystics were well aware..
>
> > Well, for instance, you could visit hell.  Why anyone would want to
> > visit hell, I do not know.
>
> Oh dear. tere are at least 22 places in 4different planes, apart from
> the qlipoth, on the kabbalsiic maps, none of which is hell. Hell is a
> pagan European invention.
>
> > Robert B. Winn

Well, I guess all people are the same.
Why would ancient European being more advance also invent lies to con
other people?
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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