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Article #1409Re: Quantum Cosmological Boundaries and Determinisim?
From: Stephen Braham
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:17
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:17
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jtwamley@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Jason Twamley) writes: >braham@physics.ubc.ca (Stephen Braham) writes: >>shouldn't be confused with the _dynamical_ collapse of the >>wavefunction, induced by decoherence processes- that's a statement >>on a Shroedinger picture density matrix, and ADH is a lot more >>general than that. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Hmmmm... I have head it said that ADH may be too restrictive for any >system to match up to the Gell-Mann Hartle (GMH) criterion of quai-classical. >Even Omnes believes that the GMH decoherence criterion is too tough... Well, the definition of a quasiclassical domain is VERY strong, and classicality is being redefined. I tend to lean towards the approximate decoherence ideas, but that causes LOTS of problems (the statements that Gell-Mann and Hartle make really do need EXTENSIVE improvement). I'm presently spending time worrying about that, in fact. My biggest worry is that you then seemed to be forced into needing an interpretation of the off-diagonal elements in the decoherence functional. These are NOT connected to the off-diagonal elements in the density matrix, by the way- old-fashioned S-picture decoherence and ADH are produced by similar effects (state squeezing, primarily), or so it seems, but they are very different creatures in reality. >Jason Steve -- | Name: Stephen P. Braham | Perversion: Quantum Cosmologist| | Hangout: UBC physics | Signature: Euclidean | | Vancouver, BC |--------------------------------+ | Canada | E-mail: braham@physics.ubc.ca |
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