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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Smiler
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:18
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"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
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> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 4, 2:46 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that 
>>>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. 
>>>>>>>>>> ?They
>>>>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as 
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At 
>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church.  Fortunately, they were
>>>>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in 
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible.  The entire Old Testament was
>>>>>> written by the Jews.  The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>>>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>>>>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>>>>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>>>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
>>>> decides who the apostles will be.
>>> Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along
>>> years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this
>>> dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'
>>>
>>> Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.
>>>
>>> I think you should study circular logic.
>>>
>>> Like
>>>
>>> I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
>>> Everything I say is therefore True.
>>> Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.
>>>
>>>   Matthew and John were apostles.
>>>
>>>> Peter, James,  and Paul were apostles.  Luke and Mark were disciples.
>>>> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
>>>> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
>>>> standing in the church.  Modern atheists are the ones who have no
>>>> standing in the church.
>>> Do you realise how little I care about the Church?
>>>
>> Yes, that is why you have no standing in the church.
>>
>>> The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart
>>> have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and,
>>> always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no
>>> value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.
>>>
>>> You probably believed in GW Bush as well.
>>>
>>> Sucker.
>>>
>> I ran against G W Bush.  What did you do, vote for John Kerry?
>
> There is a bigger world out here than the USA. I live on a continient that 
> is larger and has three times the population and has been civilized a lot 
> longer, and is called Europe.
>
> I don't you could even name one European politician.
>

"I ran against GW Bush" reminded me of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyr1ugzxXM

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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