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Article #14118Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:21
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:21
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 3, 10:59 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Jul 4, 12:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in >>>>> the presence of God than with the devils in hell. >>>>> =========== >>>>> In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is >>>>> to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... >>>> No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim >>>> that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. >>>> ========== >>>> Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped >>>> ... or not, as the case may be. >>> Well, there is no sin in heaven. Maybe that is why atheists do not >>> want to go there. >>> Robert B. Winn >> This is a big lie invented by you, two in fact, please acknowledge ! >> 1). You are here on earth and not in the heaven, how do you know there >> is no sin there? >> 2). No atheist has indicated to you that he does not want to go to >> heaven, and you put word into his mouth.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Jesus Christ said that no person will enter heaven who has not been > cleansed of sin. All atheists I have conversed with have told me they > do not want to enter heaven. Oh, I not nly dont mind, I actually visited it a few times. However, there are other places of equal interest. I think deciding that you want to spend the rest of your afterlife in one place is overly restrictive, when there are a range of places you MIGHT want to visit, > Robert B. Winn
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