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Article #14143Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:04
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:04
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On Jul 4, 3:47 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 3, 12:41 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Jul 3, 9:21�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > >> The Loan Arranger wrote: > > >>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) > > >>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus > > >>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They > > >>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. > > >>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many > > >>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make > > >>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least > > >>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! > > >> All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma, > > >> you could 'know' god directly. > > >> \ > > >> Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true. > > > >> Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god > > >> at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a > > >> sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could > > >> meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so > > >> much the better. > > > >> There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and > > >> latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods. > > > >> Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course. > > > >> For a so-called �monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful > > >> beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-) > > > > What do you mean "all the Gnostics said"? The Gnostics said that > > > Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross because he was a God. > > > You should go and check EXACTLY what they said. You do not seem to know. > > > They > > > > were apostate Christians. > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > I know EXACTLY what they said because I have read some of their > writings. They were very mystical depictions of light, spirits, etc., > for the most part, all very mysterious, but their greatest deviation > from Christianity was their belief that Jesus Christ did not suffer > and die because he was a God. > Robert B. Winn For you and your loony gangs, Jesus was the son of god and now being worshiped by you as god. So, how could he have suffered when pinned in the cross? Or even died?
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