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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:46
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 3, 12:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 3, 9:22 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
>>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
>>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
>>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
>>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>>>> TLA
>>>>> That is correct about the Catholic Church.  Fortunately, they were
>>>>> able to keep the Bible pretty much intact.
>>>> Of course. They *wrote* it and edited out what they didn't want in it.
>>>> Why change a winning formula?
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>> The Catholics did not write the Bible.  The entire Old Testament was
>>> written by the Jews.  The New Testament was written by apostles and
>>> disciples of Jesus Christ.
>> It was not. Only one gospel in the NT to my not too certain knowledge
>> was written by a disciple or apostle.
>>
>> Paul was most certainly neither.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> Well, the fact of the matter is that Jesus Christ is the one who
> decides who the apostles will be. 

Ok..so theres this dude you say was dead, and then these guys come along 
years later and write a tabloid account for heir paymatsers, and this 
dead guy appears and says 'these are apostles right: I appointed them'

Y'know, I could believe walking on water easier than that.

I think you should study circular logic.

Like

I. TNP, am actuallyt God.
Everything I say is therefore True.
Therefore when I say I am god, I AM gGodt, and don't you forget it.


  Matthew and John were apostles.
> Peter, James,  and Paul were apostles.  Luke and Mark were disciples.
> Now the fact that modern atheists may attempt to demote or
> excommunicate writers of the New Testament does not change their
> standing in the church.  Modern atheists are the ones who have no
> standing in the church.

Do you realise how little I care about the Church?

The religion and the messages of a half decent prophet with a kind heart 
have some merit, but the church is well past its sell by date, and, 
always was, and always will be a political institution with almost no 
value in terms of spiritual endeavour, whatsoever.

You probably believed in GW Bush as well.

Sucker.



> Robert B. Winn
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