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Article #14176Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Loan Arranger
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:36
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:36
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 3, 9:00�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) >> >>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus >>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They >>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. >> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many >> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make >> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least >> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! > > That is correct about the Catholic Church. Fortunately, they were > able to keep the Bible pretty much intact. That's "intact" in the sense of "as close as possible what Athanasius chose in order to further his own agendas and those of some factions of the early Christian church," of course. There was a lot of good but politically inconvenient stuff thrown out, and replaced with the scrawlings of a tax collector with a barbequed ass, who had never been near The Man Himself but seemed to think he had a hotline to Jesus. Take a look at the Pseudepigrapha at some point. A good source is www.pseudepigrapha.com. They're a bit eye-opening, and fill in a deal of detail that's simply missing from the Bible but carried through in Christian lore regardless. It's entertaining to work out quite how different the Christian Church would be today if different (better IMHO) choices had been made at Hippo. "Intact" is relative. TLA
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