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Article #14187Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:41
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:41
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 3, 9:21�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> The Loan Arranger wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped) >>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus >>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They >>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology. >>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many >>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make >>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least >>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences! >> All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma, >> you could 'know' god directly. >> \ >> Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true. >> >> Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god >> at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a >> sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could >> meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so >> much the better. >> >> There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and >> latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods. >> >> Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course. >> >> For a so-called �monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful >> beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-) >> >> > What do you mean "all the Gnostics said"? The Gnostics said that > Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross because he was a God. You should go and check EXACTLY what they said. You do not seem to know. They > were apostate Christians. > Robert B. Winn
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