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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:17
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 3, 12:41 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 3, 9:21�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
>>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
>>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
>>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
>>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
>>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
>>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
>>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
>>>> All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma,
>>>> you could 'know' god directly.
>>>> \
>>>> Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true.
>>>> Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god
>>>> at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a
>>>> sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could
>>>> meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so
>>>> much the better.
>>>> There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and
>>>> latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods.
>>>> Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course.
>>>> For a so-called �monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful
>>>> beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-)
>>> What do you mean "all the Gnostics said"?   The Gnostics said that
>>> Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross because he was a God.
>> You should go and check EXACTLY what they said. You do not seem to know.
>>
>>   They
>>
>>
>>
>>> were apostate Christians.
>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> I know EXACTLY what they said because I have read some of their
> writings.  They were very mystical depictions of light, spirits, etc.,
> for the most part, all very mysterious,  but their greatest deviation
> from Christianity was their belief that Jesus Christ did not suffer
> and die because he was a God.

Rather than THE god?

seems a shame to murder em all just because of an indefinite article..


> Robert B. Winn
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:17:05 +0100
From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
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