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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:14
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On Jul 3, 1:17 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 12:41 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 3, 9:21�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> (HUGE amount of unnecessary quoting snipped)
> >>>>>> The Gnostiocs wrote a bunch of garbage about their theory that Jesus
> >>>>>> Christ did not suffer or die on the cross because he was a God. �They
> >>>>>> were trying to combine Christianity with Greek mythology.
> >>>>> The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tried to merge it with as many
> >>>>> different contemporary religions as possible, in order to make
> >>>>> Christianity an easier pill to swallow for "pagan" worshippers. At least
> >>>>> the Gnostics had the style to call on classical influences!
> >>>> All the Gnostics said was you didn't need all this doctrine and dogma,
> >>>> you could 'know' god directly.
> >>>> \
> >>>> Which is the sense I suspect they meant it, is of course true.
> >>>> Howver that didn;tr sut te Romans, who didn't really care about any god
> >>>> at all: they wanted unification, ciilization, and pacification, and a
> >>>> sword in one hand and a bible in the other was perfect: If you could
> >>>> meld that into whatever local nature spirits the Druids had going, so
> >>>> much the better.
> >>>> There have always been a host of angels, urges and demi-urges and
> >>>> latterly saints, to paste over the original pagan gods.
> >>>> Any you found antisocial, became devils and demons, of course.
> >>>> For a so-called �monotheistic religion, there are a lot of powerful
> >>>> beings in the Xtian pantheon ;-)
> >>> What do you mean "all the Gnostics said"?   The Gnostics said that
> >>> Jesus Christ did not suffer on the cross because he was a God.
> >> You should go and check EXACTLY what they said. You do not seem to know.
>
> >>   They
>
> >>> were apostate Christians.
> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> > I know EXACTLY what they said because I have read some of their
> > writings.  They were very mystical depictions of light, spirits, etc.,
> > for the most part, all very mysterious,  but their greatest deviation
> > from Christianity was their belief that Jesus Christ did not suffer
> > and die because he was a God.
>
> Rather than THE god?
>
> seems a shame to murder em all just because of an indefinite article..
>
>
>
> > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>
Gnostics were killed under the Romans because they were Christians,
not because they were apostate Christians.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT)
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