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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14242
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:22
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 1, 12:53 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 30, 1:18 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 29, 9:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 30, 1:26 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2:11 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he does not exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Proven by whom?
>>>>>>>>>> By god himself!
>>>>>>>>>>> A proof is a proof; it doesn't matter who proved it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>> Well, if there was no one who proved it, and nothing was proven, then
>>>>>>>>>> it did not happen.
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Just like your bible stories.
>>>>>>>>> Well, I believed in the story of Hezekiah's tunnel being dug, and sure
>>>>>>>>> enough, there is a tunnel there today, just as the Bible says there
>>>>>>>>> is.  How do you explain it?
>>>>>>>> ER..there was a tunnel?
>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, if there was an atheist anywhere who would admit that the verses
>>>>>>> of the Bible which describe the construction of the tunnel were true,
>>>>>>> then we could discuss other verses.  As long as atheists claim that
>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel is a myth, then we will just discuss Hezekiah's
>>>>>>> tunnel.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> As long as you keep lying about what people have said when the
>>>>>> original is still online, people will think you're a loony.  And call
>>>>>> you a liar.
>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> Atheists will call me a liar no matter what I say.  They used to call
>>>>> Jesus Christ a liar.
>>>> If you wish to stop being accused of lying, then stop lying. It's not
>>>> useful, you're not getting away with it. I guess it diverts attention
>>>> away from having to answer hard questions. <shrug>- Hide quoted text -
>>> I have not lied about anything.  There really is a conduit for water
>>> from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam.   There is no Harry Potter.
>>> The city of London is still there.  It is all exactly as I said it
>>> was.
>> That is not one of the lies I'm referring to.
>>
>> You have lied repeatedly. If you don't know you're doing it, maybe you
>> need to seek help again.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Well, you atheists seem a lot more sensitive than most people.  Any
> joke can be called a lie, but what is the point?
> I mean, I do not see you calling Jay Leno a liar every time he does
> his monologue.

We're sensitive about trying to discuss something sensibly with someone 
who has no commitment to telling the truth.

Jay Leno is funny. I don't think you were trying to be funny. You were 
trying to score points for an apparently indefensible religion.
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