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Article #14242Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:22
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:22
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 1, 12:53 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 30, 1:18 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jun 29, 9:49 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> On Jun 30, 1:26 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2:11 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that he does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe >>>>>>>>>>>>> in God. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god? >>>>>>>>>>>> Proven by whom? >>>>>>>>>> By god himself! >>>>>>>>>>> A proof is a proof; it doesn't matter who proved it. >>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> Well, if there was no one who proved it, and nothing was proven, then >>>>>>>>>> it did not happen. >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Just like your bible stories. >>>>>>>>> Well, I believed in the story of Hezekiah's tunnel being dug, and sure >>>>>>>>> enough, there is a tunnel there today, just as the Bible says there >>>>>>>>> is. How do you explain it? >>>>>>>> ER..there was a tunnel? >>>>>>>> So what? >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, if there was an atheist anywhere who would admit that the verses >>>>>>> of the Bible which describe the construction of the tunnel were true, >>>>>>> then we could discuss other verses. As long as atheists claim that >>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel is a myth, then we will just discuss Hezekiah's >>>>>>> tunnel. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> As long as you keep lying about what people have said when the >>>>>> original is still online, people will think you're a loony. And call >>>>>> you a liar. >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Atheists will call me a liar no matter what I say. They used to call >>>>> Jesus Christ a liar. >>>> If you wish to stop being accused of lying, then stop lying. It's not >>>> useful, you're not getting away with it. I guess it diverts attention >>>> away from having to answer hard questions. <shrug>- Hide quoted text - >>> I have not lied about anything. There really is a conduit for water >>> from Gihon spring to the pool of Siloam. There is no Harry Potter. >>> The city of London is still there. It is all exactly as I said it >>> was. >> That is not one of the lies I'm referring to. >> >> You have lied repeatedly. If you don't know you're doing it, maybe you >> need to seek help again.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, you atheists seem a lot more sensitive than most people. Any > joke can be called a lie, but what is the point? > I mean, I do not see you calling Jay Leno a liar every time he does > his monologue. We're sensitive about trying to discuss something sensibly with someone who has no commitment to telling the truth. Jay Leno is funny. I don't think you were trying to be funny. You were trying to score points for an apparently indefensible religion.
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