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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:38
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On Jul 1, 1:11 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 1, 4:01�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> Anyway, while we are here, have you ever read the King Follet
> >> >> Discourse?
> >> >> Could you explain to me why you believe that God has always been God
> >> >> as
> >> >> the
> >> >> bible claims and why your main prophet believes otherwise as outlined
> >> >> in
> >> >> the
> >> >> discourses?
> >> >> The only reason I ask this is that as I understand it, it's a complete
> >> >> mind-fuck for most Mormons like yourself.
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> >> > Well, you seem to have really worked yourself up about it. �Why don't
> >> > you write to Salt Lake City and get an official answer from church
> >> > authorities?
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> What makes you imagine I'm worked up about it?
> >> Are you projecting?
> >> I already know what the Mormon Authorities have to say on the subject.
> >> So I'm asking you, but all you are doing is avoiding the question, as
> >> expected.
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> >> --
> >> Steve O
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> > Well, if you already have the official answer from the church, why are
> > you asking me?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Because I would be interested in knowing how you manage to reconcile the
> teachings of Joseph Smith with the teachings of the bible, which, when it
> comes to the basic characteristics of the Christian God, are completely in
> opposition.
> Actually, to be truthful, I really highlighted this point because I am aware
> it is a source of embarrassment for Mormons like yourself who are generally
> instructed not to tell people about this kind of stuff while they are out on
> missionary duties.
> As a 60 yr old Mormon, I would expect you to know about the King Follet
> Discourse, or am I wrong?
> So, how about it?
> So, anyway, has God always been God, or was God once a man who progressed to
> a God, as Smith claims in the King Follet Discourse, and is it possible for
> Mormon men like yourself to become a God?
> Once again, I expect you to run away from this question, as you have already
> shown.
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> --
> Steve O

Well, the King Follet discourse was a funeral eulogy, not church
doctrine.  The teachings of Joseph Smith with regard to the basic
characteristics of the Christian God are that God has a body of flesh
and bones as tangible as man's, his Son Jesus Christ also, but the
Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of
spirit.  These three consititute the Godhead.  These teachings are
different from the rest of Christianity who follow the Nicene creed as
a description of God and Jesus Christ, which was the result of a
council called by the Emperor Constantine to unite Christian leaders
and eliminate differences in their teachings.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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