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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#14260
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:03
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jun 30, 12:45 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 29, 2:11 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:54�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:93faee1e-7aa9-4f18-b761-3a585ebcbaf0@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, you ought to consider the consequences of a proof by God
>>>>>>>>>> that he does not exist.
>>>>>>>>> If that were to happen, people would have no choice except to believe
>>>>>>>>> in God.
>>>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe in a proven non-existent god?
>>>>>>>> Proven by whom?
>>>>>> By god himself!
>>>>>>> A proof is a proof; it doesn't matter who proved it.
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>> Well, if there was no one who proved it, and nothing was proven, then
>>>>>> it did not happen.
>>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>>> Just like your bible stories.
>>>>> Well, I believed in the story of Hezekiah's tunnel being dug, and sure
>>>>> enough, there is a tunnel there today, just as the Bible says there
>>>>> is.  How do you explain it?
>>>> ER..there was a tunnel?
>>>> So what?
>>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Well, if there was an atheist anywhere who would admit that the verses
>>> of the Bible which describe the construction of the tunnel were true,
>>> then we could discuss other verses.  As long as atheists claim that
>>> Hezekiah's tunnel is a myth, then we will just discuss Hezekiah's
>>> tunnel.
>> We'll admit that when you admit that there's a magic platform at Kings
>> Cross station as described in Harry Potter.
>>
>> The Bible writers could've been writing fiction about a real place. Why
>> do you discount this interpretation of the evidence?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Well, war correspondents could have been writing fiction about a real
> place when they wrote about the Normandy invasion on D-Day.   Once all
> the soldiers are dead who made the beachhead, who is to say otherwise?

No-one is trying to assert that Hitler is a god.

Anyway, that's why it's important to look at independent lines of 
evidence to establish what really happened. There are many contemporary 
  accounts of the events of D-Day, by correlating and testing them, we 
can be confident in our history.

What independent lines of evidence support the Bible? Your tunnel 
doesn't help any more than London's existence supports Harry Potter 
(which we all know is fiction).
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