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Article #1428Re: Aristotle and the Modern Physicist
From: Mcinnes B T (Dr)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:46
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:46
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"you can't deny that the metric affects where they end up going..." I realise that I may have been a little unfair to SOME modern physicists. I am aware, too, that not everybody takes the "exchange of virtual particles" bit very seriously. But I do claim that many people think of gravitation as an "interaction". Which it is NOT; this being the main point of GR. Now without getting too philosophical about it, I suppose that when people say that two things "interact", they mean that these things end up doing something that they otherwise would not. I am pretty sure that, though they may protest otherwise, a lot of people privately think of gravitation as just another "interaction", albeit one with an unusually complicated classical version. But this is simply wrong: as Aristotle said, the Earth goes around the Sun on an approxiamtely elliptical orbit NOT because it is being "forced" to do so, NOT because it is"interacting" with the Sun, but rather because it is NOT interacting with the Sun. To ask, "why does the Earth go around the Sun?" is precisely analogous to asking Newton or Galileo why a free particle moves in a straight line at constant speed. What would you have it do? I fear...correct me if I am mistaken... that when you say that the "metric affects where they are going" you are thinking of the metric tensor as a thing that lives on Minkowski space: the particle would really like to follow the Minkowski geodesics, but the metric compels it to go elsewhere. Would you say that the Minkowski metric "interacts" with free particles in Minkowski space and "forces" them to move along straight lines ["inertons"!]? No? Well, if you do not wish to say it of Minkowski space, then don't say it of any other spacetime. "Gravity" was all a mistake, resulting from our ignorance of spacetime curvature. How does one quantize a mistake?
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!nuscc!matmcinn From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Aristotle and the Modern Physicist Message-ID: <1992Jul24.024619.28944@nuscc.nus.sg> Date: 24 Jul 92 02:46:19 GMT References: <mcirvin.711906105@husc8> Organization: National University of Singapore Lines: 27