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On Jun 29, 12:26�am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Smiler wrote:
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >news:065060a2-b02e-4232-84f0-e35b7411dcd2@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 27, 9:05 am, mizlee <miz...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 27, 8:49 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 26, 1:09?pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>> W.A. Sawford wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05? am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48? am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. ? All you have
> >>>>>>>> done
> >>>>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> suppsed to have done it. ?Atheists have said they have proven all
> >>>>>>>> manner of things. ?Almost always it turns out to be something
> >>>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other
> >>>>>>>> atheists.
> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday,
> >>>>>>> which it
> >>>>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
> >>>>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
> >>>>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which
> >>>>>>> atheists
> >>>>>>> have claimed it? ?Atheists don't actually need to 'prove'
> >>>>>>> anything,
> >>>>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the
> >>>>>>> first
> >>>>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of
> >>>>>>> god any
> >>>>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of
> >>>>>>> Traal.
> >>>>>> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis,
> >>>>>> nor
> >>>>>> a fact.
> >>>>>> So it can't be proven or disproven.
> >>>>>> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we
> >>>>>> cant get
> >>>>>> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
> >>>>>> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and
> >>>>>> open
> >>>>>> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole
> >>>>>> mess as
> >>>>>> something one can simply do without.
> >>>>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although
> >>>>>>> actual
> >>>>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first
> >>>>>>> place...
> >>>>>> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility.
> >>>>>> Its
> >>>>>> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
> >>>>>> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
> >>>>>>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
> >>>> Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
> >>> I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
> >>> He was the one who created atheists.
> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> >> So, if Jesus Christ created atheists, and Jesus Christ was perfect, he
> >> could not create imperfection. Hence, atheists are perfect. Sounds
> >> OK to me.- Hide quoted text -
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> > Well, Jesus Christ would be the one to tell your idea. �He is the one
> > who is going to judge the earth.
> > -------------------------------------
> > You keep saying this and talk about 'end times', but have never told us what
> > date it will happen.
> > You claim to have a 'direct line' to this JC character, so tell us what he
> > says.
>
> He *is* kinda tardy to the party. I bet he brings some kick-ass wine though!- Hide quoted text -
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The day and hour no man knoweth, no, not the angels in heaven.
Robert B. Winn