🚀 go-pugleaf

rbwinn wrote:
> On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jun 26, 5:59 am, "W.A. Sawford" <was1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven.   All you have done
>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is
>>>>> suppsed to have done it.  Atheists have said they have proven all
>>>>> manner of things.  Almost always it turns out to be something some
>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it
>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists
>>>> have claimed it?  Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything,
>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first
>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any
>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal.
>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual
>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place...
>>>> Wendy
>>> Well, give me your address, and I can send you a Bible.  So we will
>>> run through what has been said so far.  Atheists say that everything
>>> in the Bible is mythology.  
>> No they do not.
>>
>> They sy it is a mixture of history, mythology and social mores.- Hide quoted text -
>>
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> 
> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's
> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today.  Before
> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not
> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven.

No "they" weren't.

> Atheists say
> whatever they think will fly.  It just so happened that I knew about
> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for
> this conversation.  So now they are saying that the Bible has some
> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that.  They
> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started,
> that the Bible is nothing but mythology.

<sigh>