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Article #14326Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:05
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:05
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>> W.A. Sawford wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: >>>>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done >>>>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is >>>>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all >>>>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some >>>>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists. >>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it >>>>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh). >>>>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.' >>>>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists >>>>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything, >>>>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first >>>>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any >>>>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal. >>>> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor >>>> a fact. >>>> So it can't be proven or disproven. >>>> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get >>>> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less. >>>> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open >>>> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as >>>> something one can simply do without. >>>>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual >>>>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place... >>>> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its >>>> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology. >>>> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a >>>> statement about its existence, or lack thereof. >>>>> Wendy- Hide quoted text - >>> Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ. >> Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus. >> >> >> >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows. > He was the one who created atheists. You think you do, but your characterisations have been nothing but a poorly drawn cartoon of atheists.
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