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On Jun 27, 8:49 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > >> W.A. Sawford wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done
> > >>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is
> > >>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all
> > >>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some
> > >>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists.
> > >>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it
> > >>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh).
> > >>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.'
> > >>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists
> > >>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything,
> > >>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first
> > >>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any
> > >>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal.
> > >> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor
> > >> a fact.
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> > >> So it can't be proven or disproven.
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> > >> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get
> > >> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less.
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> > >> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open
> > >> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as
> > >> something one can simply do without.
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> > >>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual
> > >>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place...
> > >> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its
> > >> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology.
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> > >> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a
> > >> statement about its existence, or lack thereof.
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> > >>> Wendy- Hide quoted text -
> > > Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ.
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> > Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus.
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> > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows.
> He was the one who created atheists.
> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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So, if Jesus Christ created atheists, and Jesus Christ was perfect, he
could not create imperfection.  Hence, atheists are perfect.   Sounds
OK to me.