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Article #14344Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:49
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:49
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On Jun 27, 12:31 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 26, 1:09�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> W.A. Sawford wrote: > >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote: > >>>> On Jun 26, 5:05� am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 26, 4:48� am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >>>> Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. � All you have done > >>>> is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is > >>>> suppsed to have done it. �Atheists have said they have proven all > >>>> manner of things. �Almost always it turns out to be something some > >>>> individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists. > >>>> Robert B. Winn > >>> I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it > >>> isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh). > >>> 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.' > >>> Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists > >>> have claimed it? �Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything, > >>> because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first > >>> place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any > >>> more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal. > >> Completely wrong. The concept of God is not a scientific hypotheis, nor > >> a fact. > > >> So it can't be proven or disproven. > > >> Its simply a shorthand for 'all the wide and wonderful stuff we cant get > >> a handle on; and feel scared by' more or less. > > >> Atheism isn't so much denying His existence, nor yet keeping and open > >> mind on the subject (agnostic) its merely sidestepping the whole mess as > >> something one can simply do without. > > >>> Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual > >>> evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place... > >> That's the whole point. Belief is a state of mind that has utility. Its > >> a little bit of Wise-ardry. Headology. > > >> Wise-ards understand that believing in something is an action, not a > >> statement about its existence, or lack thereof. > > >>> Wendy- Hide quoted text - > > Well, what atheists do not like to discuss is Jesus Christ. > > Yu seem to know more about what Atheists do and don't do than Jesus. > > > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > I know a lot about atheists, but not as much as Jesus Christ knows. He was the one who created atheists. Robert B. Winn
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