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Article #14353Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:04
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:04
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On Jun 26, 5:59 am, "W.A. Sawford" <was1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 26, 5:05 am, RobertL <robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 4:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 25, 7:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > Well, if no one proved it, then it was not proven. All you have done > > is to say it was proven without showing any proof or anyone who is > > suppsed to have done it. Atheists have said they have proven all > > manner of things. Almost always it turns out to be something some > > individual atheist put together that sounds good to other atheists. > > Robert B. Winn > > I wasn't going to get involved in all this (unless it's Friday, which it > isn't) but I can't stand it any longer (sigh). > > 'Atheists have said they have proven all manner of things.' > > Well, what exactly have they claimed to have proved, and which atheists > have claimed it? Atheists don't actually need to 'prove' anything, > because there is not a shred of evidence that god exists in the first > place. The onus is not on atheists to prove the non-existence of god any > more than the non-existence of the ravening bug-blatter beast of Traal. > > Show me some real evidence and I'll think about belief. Although actual > evidence would of course remove the need for belief in the first place... > > Wendy Well, give me your address, and I can send you a Bible. So we will run through what has been said so far. Atheists say that everything in the Bible is mythology. So I said what about Hezekiah's tunnel and the earthen ramp the Assyrian army built to get over the city wall when they took the city of Lachish. Those are two things described in the Bible that can still be seen today. Well, say atheists, the Harry Potter book says that Harry Potter left from London on the train from the train station in London, so that proves that London, England does not exist. But, I said, I know a man from London, England, and he says that Harry Potter does not exist. We do not believe you know a man from London, England, say the atheists. Then Darrell Stec said that the Bible cannot be true because it says that Jesus Christ went to the synagogue in Nazareth and read from the book of Isaiah, and Darrell Stec and other atheists have proven that Nazareth did not exist and there were no synagogues in the Middle East until 200 A.D. But, I said, Paul and Luke wrote in the Bible that there were synagogues all over Asia Minor. Darrell Stek tells me that proves the Bible is not true because atheists of today have determined there were no synagogues until 200 A.D. That is all we have discussed so far. Robert B. Winn
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