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Article #14412Re: True Philosophers and Thought
From: Lester Zick
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:24
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:24
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT), PD <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote: >On Apr 24, 6:35�pm, foolsrushin <dolomi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 25 Apr, 00:22, Lester Zick <dontbot...@nowhere.net> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT), PD >> > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> Obviously you've already taken a vow of consummate ignorance. Anyone >> > >> can say anything publicly without making it true. >> > >That's certainly correct. However, the point of using words in the >> > >first place is not to establish the truth of the purported meaning of >> > >those words, but to communicate. >> > To communicate what? Science prefers truth. >> > ~v~~ >> >> Contractual obligations, poems, plays, inductive infallibility? Can >> the latter be communicated unambigously? Wittgenstein retreated to >> language games, and rightly, Russell thought them silly. > >Lester has certainly proferred himself toward the perception that he >doesn't really care one way or the other. His wee game is to cycle >through a two line script: >1 Prove what you say. >2. Nope, you haven't proven it. [Go back to 1] Difference is I can demonstrate the truth of one thing whereas you can't demonstrate the truth of anything. Tell you what. We'll settle just for having you demonstrate your own conception of truth instead of complaining about mine. ~v~~
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