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Article #14441Re: Original motion at the Big Bang
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:30
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:30
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foolsrushin. wrote: > On 14 Feb, 03:39, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote: >> Albert Einstein said: I want to know how God created this universe. >> All the rest are just details. >> When matter was created at the beginning of the universe I believe it >> started to move due to its own force. Its freefall imediately set it >> into motion. In other words: there was no absolute rest as Einstein >> alluded to. >> The original expansion was inflation which quickly spread matter apart >> so that gravity would not recollapse the Big Bang in a Big Fall. >> Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008 > > And what was there, before the beginning of the Universe/ Multiverse, > Bang or no Bang! The question is meaningless. Time is only measured relative to events: this was the firtst event. Ergo no time existed before it. Ergo you cannot talk about 'what happened before' > It seems to me that both empirically and logically we > are confronted with isoluble regressions, though, of course, locally, > at least, most of our math and physics seems to work and be > productive, so you are right to raise problems and paradoxes in > connexion with either. But what lies, if anything, beyond our island > of mathematical physics, lies, it would seem to me, beyond our grasp! Of course: we have a one pointed view of te universe, and it is not likley that its simple enough taht a being contsrined within it can encompass ALL he compleities of it. The big bang is just a point on a set of graphs wher all the linees tend back to....it is somewhat simpler to explain the world in terms of one inexplicable, singular event, that had 'character' than an Act of Conscious creation that started a billion timelines simultaneously at some later date. > Roger Penroses's 'The Emperoror's New Mind' is worth a visit, if only > because it blocks so many glib (mostly implicit: we know) metaphysical > solutions, yet it is a Chinese dinner, and you find yourself raiding > the fridge in the middle of the night! > -- > 'foolsrushin.' >
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