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Article #14450Re: Infinite blueshift and redshift in gravity
From: mitchgrav
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:20
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:20
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On Feb 8, 7:07 pm, "foolsrushin." <dolomi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 9 Feb, 02:02, Eric Baird wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:21:24 -0800 (PST), mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote: > > >Th Einstein shift at the event horizon is infinite. Meaning light > > >emitted outward there has an infinite redshift. Also light falling > > >inward would have infinite blueshift by Pound Rebka. They go hand in > > >hand. > > > >These are the nonsense predictions of event horizons. Black holes are > > >disproven. You need to map time to space. > > > >Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008 > > > I think it works out like this: > > According to both Einstein's general theory and Newtonian theory, a > > distant external observer trying to view coordinates at r=2m would be > > confronted with an infinite redshift (i.e. no observable signal). > > > Under GR1915, an observer placed at the horizon and looking outward > > should probably see an infinite inward gravitaitonal blueshift > > (so hovering at the horizon under GR1915 would seem to be just as > > illegal as moving at the speed of light under SR) . > > > Under Newtonian mechanics, the inward blueshift seen from r=2m would > > only seem to amount to a doubling in frequency. > > [???? One day I'll learn to type .... .] > > > =Erk= (Eric Baird) > > : " The dormouse again took a minute or two to think about it, > > : and then said, 'It was a treacle-well.' > > : 'There's no such thing!' Alice was beginning very angrily ... " > > : - "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", Lewis Carroll > > Opening hours for Treacle Wells are 12 noon to 12 noon, though if you > are agile, we are also open from 8.15 a.m. to 8.14 a.m. > > There are other forces at work. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5488895546832717747 > > Just open your mind and open your heart! We have enough f-w's, so > don't become an extra! > -- > 'foolsrushin.'- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Zero and infinite energy light; one going inward at the event horizon and one going outward are nonsense predictions. These predictions disprove black hole theory where time ends in the Schwarzschild metric. Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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