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On May 27, 12:00 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
<e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
> In sci.physics, BradGuth
> <bradg...@gmail.com>
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> on 27 May 2007 11:24:49 -0700
> <1180290289.181169.307...@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
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> > On May 26, 9:47 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
> > <e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
> >> In sci.physics, BradGuth
> >> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote
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> >> > You obviously have no such understanding of my proposal.
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> >> > You just don't get it.  Using the efficient tug of mass in order to
> >> > move a much greater mass is obviously way over your naysay head.
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> >> Ah, I see.  So something just waves its 100 kg mass
> >> just over theMoonand magically moves it to L1?
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> >> Right.
> > Try 1e12 kg as tethered at themoon's2XL2, or if need be using the
> > more impressive 3XL2 tethered mass.
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> That's a *billion metric tonnes*.  Best I can do is
> $100/metric tonne of scrap iron (total cost: $100 billion),
> and you'll have to get it up there yourself.
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> > Of course there's going to be a
> > few complex adjustments of tethered mass along the way towards
> > reaching and holding onto Earth's L1.
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> OK...and these adjustments will be done precisely how...?

Not by the snookered and seriously dumbfounded fools like yourself.
If you want "precisely how", that'll cost.  Why don't you make it
worth my while?

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> > Unfortunately, unless I can get
> > a cache of spare body parts,
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> Mmm...I'll put you in touch with Mary Shelley.  She was good at that.
> :-)
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> > I will no longer be a part of that team
> > effort, that'll likely become the ultimate responsibility of the
> > second or third generation that'll by then be having to pay $100/
> > gallon and perhaps otherwise as much as $10/kwhr by the end of that
> > WWIII global warming century, that's likely going to take all the
> > shade via ourmoonthat we can muster.  Having established roughly
> > half the tidal factors to deal with, as such this alone should
> > otherwise greatly minimize the internal and surface related trauma of
> > friction induced global warming.
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> >> And how long did you want this movement to take again?
> > A good century should more than do the trick.  Or, are you Third Reich
> > naysay folks in some kind of special Old Testament thumping hurry?
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> Probably not, but you're going to have to put a few more details on
> exactly how this tether works.  (Especially since it's far from clear
> how much tension the tether will have.)

Perhaps as little as taking 10% of the 4.84 GPa as accommodated by the
moon's basalt fibers.  Otherwise, I honestly think we could go for 50%
tether loading, as being worth 2.42 GPa.

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> >> > Don't need any stinking big-ass rocket engines, or those impactors
> >> > from our Oort cloud.  As I'd said before, given a good supercomputer
> >> > and of its fully interactive orbital physics software is all that I'll
> >> > need, plus a spare trillion dollars per year for roughly the next
> >> > century.  Got a problem with any of that?
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> >> Um....why would one want to boost a supercomputer over
> >> theMoonin order to direct its motion?
> > Now that's really getting silly, don't you think?  I only need that
> > supercomputer along with its advanced 3D interactive orbital simulator
> > software for a few pesky refinements, and otherwise for generating the
> > usual nifty 3D spiffy graphics of show and tell, as in generating all
> > of that eye popping candy so that folks will not terribly mind having
> > to pay that 10% surcharge upon fossil and yellowcake energy.
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> A contemporary PC would do the trick and cost far less.
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> >> As for the spare trillion -- I'll have to ask my Nazi
> >> Jewish supervisors.  I'm not authorized to dole out that
> >> sort of funding. ;-)
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> > It's all covered by my 10% excise tax that's added onto the end-user/
> > retail cost of all that's fossil or yellowcake energy.  Of course,
> > this excise tax would likely have an affect of forcing the wholesale
> > cost of that energy to becoming as competitively low cost as
> > possible.  Sorry about all that.
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> "Your" tax?  It'll probably have to be passed through Congress.  Contact
> your Rep.

NO, I'd meant a global fuel/energy tax of 10%.  No Congress of any
kind, as this one of relocating our moon out to Earth's L1 will be
mandated by the likes of God.

Do your butt-cheeks always flap when you blow your brown nose?

At least you've been a fairly good sport of a rusemaster.  Too bad all
the others within your silly borg collective don't have any sense of
humor about their demise.
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Brad Guth
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"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell