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Re: How much global warming(GW) is our local mascon good for?

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From: The Ghost In The Machine
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:00
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In sci.physics, BradGuth
<bradguth@gmail.com>
 wrote
on 27 May 2007 11:24:49 -0700
<1180290289.181169.307410@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
> On May 26, 9:47 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
> <e...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>> In sci.physics, BradGuth
>> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > You obviously have no such understanding of my proposal.
>>
>> > You just don't get it.  Using the efficient tug of mass in order to
>> > move a much greater mass is obviously way over your naysay head.
>>
>> Ah, I see.  So something just waves its 100 kg mass
>> just over the Moon and magically moves it to L1?
>>
>> Right.
> Try 1e12 kg as tethered at the moon's 2XL2, or if need be using the
> more impressive 3XL2 tethered mass.

That's a *billion metric tonnes*.  Best I can do is
$100/metric tonne of scrap iron (total cost: $100 billion),
and you'll have to get it up there yourself.

> Of course there's going to be a
> few complex adjustments of tethered mass along the way towards
> reaching and holding onto Earth's L1.

OK...and these adjustments will be done precisely how...?

> Unfortunately, unless I can get
> a cache of spare body parts,

Mmm...I'll put you in touch with Mary Shelley.  She was good at that.
:-)

> I will no longer be a part of that team
> effort, that'll likely become the ultimate responsibility of the
> second or third generation that'll by then be having to pay $100/
> gallon and perhaps otherwise as much as $10/kwhr by the end of that
> WWIII global warming century, that's likely going to take all the
> shade via our moon that we can muster.  Having established roughly
> half the tidal factors to deal with, as such this alone should
> otherwise greatly minimize the internal and surface related trauma of
> friction induced global warming.
>
>>
>> And how long did you want this movement to take again?
> A good century should more than do the trick.  Or, are you Third Reich
> naysay folks in some kind of special Old Testament thumping hurry?

Probably not, but you're going to have to put a few more details on
exactly how this tether works.  (Especially since it's far from clear
how much tension the tether will have.)

>
>>
>> > Don't need any stinking big-ass rocket engines, or those impactors
>> > from our Oort cloud.  As I'd said before, given a good supercomputer
>> > and of its fully interactive orbital physics software is all that I'll
>> > need, plus a spare trillion dollars per year for roughly the next
>> > century.  Got a problem with any of that?
>>
>> Um....why would one want to boost a supercomputer over
>> the Moon in order to direct its motion?
> Now that's really getting silly, don't you think?  I only need that
> supercomputer along with its advanced 3D interactive orbital simulator
> software for a few pesky refinements, and otherwise for generating the
> usual nifty 3D spiffy graphics of show and tell, as in generating all
> of that eye popping candy so that folks will not terribly mind having
> to pay that 10% surcharge upon fossil and yellowcake energy.

A contemporary PC would do the trick and cost far less.

>
>>
>> As for the spare trillion -- I'll have to ask my Nazi
>> Jewish supervisors.  I'm not authorized to dole out that
>> sort of funding. ;-)
>
> It's all covered by my 10% excise tax that's added onto the end-user/
> retail cost of all that's fossil or yellowcake energy.  Of course,
> this excise tax would likely have an affect of forcing the wholesale
> cost of that energy to becoming as competitively low cost as
> possible.  Sorry about all that.

"Your" tax?  It'll probably have to be passed through Congress.  Contact
your Rep.

>
> What's the Jewish naysay mindset matter this time?  Is my excise of a
> 10% tax upon all such energy too much to ask for the total salvation
> of mother Earth, and of benefiting most all known life that's
> sequestered upon this badly polluted sucker?
>
> How about if I gave you silly naysay folks a good piece of the action?
>
> After all, I have a small list of other perfectly nifty things to do
> with some of that loot.
>
> BTW; what's the actual salvation of mother Earth worth these global
> warming and local energy starved days?
> -
> Brad Guth
> -
> "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
>


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