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Re: Trivial... _Extremely_ trivial, and not at all an example of _True_ free will.

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From: T Wake
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:12
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message 
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Apr_29_8elz@Cotse.NET...
> Hi  T_Wake,  I asked you:
>
>  Given me an example of true free-will
>  and tell me how it doesn't involve consumption or dissipation.
>  And no, shitting you DNA all over the place doesn't count.
>
> And you replied:
>
>  I drove to the supermarket today and on the way back decided on the spur 
> of
>  the moment to visit a rare breeds farm. How was that pre-determined ?
>  Can you pre-determine what I will watch on TV on Sunday evening ?
>
> Trivial... _Extremely_ trivial, and not at all an example of _True_ free 
> will.
>

Why not?

You asked for an example and you got one. Because *you* don't like it, 
doesn't mean it isn't valid. Adding a vague qualifier (what does "true free 
will" even mean?) doesn't change anything.

Pre-determination of anything requires everything be pre-determined.

Why don't you go back to begging Frazir for cigarettes?

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