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Article #14576Re: Churches are bars... plain and simple.
From: Stephen Dedalus
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:31
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:31
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Jeff...Relf wrote: > Hi Fools_Rush_In, Fuck your mysteries, these are the facts: > 1. You didn't chose to be born. > > 2. You will eventually die. True. > > 3. All any ever did was burn bright, > like a match, dissipating into the night. This is a pseudo-poetic statement with shades of teenage-angst syndrome, and not a fact. > 4. Control is the goal, not maximal consumption. This statement is inane and meaningless. > 4. The word God denotes a position: God denotes the missionary position. Geddit? Learn to count. Also, this a glib generalization. > You're God's slave, and God to your slaves. > > 5. Randomness comes only from a failure to measure some true causality; > hence, today's technologies and theories are not the last word. Bullshit. You have zero understanding of quantum mechanics. > Oh, and by the way, the above hard facts, not trivial tautologies. > > You told me: I see atheism as reactive. > > Only theists give a damn about atheists. > It's Physicalism, not atheism, that says: > > Physical processes determine absolutely everything. That last statement is a fact. It doesn't really matter what belief system "says" it. > Randomness comes only from a failure to measure some true causality; > hence, today's technologies and theories are not the last word. No, and repeating this statement doesn't make it any more accurate. > Re: Religion, > > It's a way to get high without drugs. Churches are bars... plain and simple. Yes, but Karl Marx phrased it better, a long long time ago. > The word God denotes a position: You're God's slave, and God to your slaves. Repeating yourself again, in the same post.
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