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Article #14681Re: Quantum Gravity Via Expansion-Contraction 43.2: The Trouble With Axiomatization of Information/Entropy
From: Doug
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:52
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:52
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Hippie's influence on Quantum Gravity; "OsherD" <mdoctorow@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1165216459.487473.275610@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com... > >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > > There is a strange postscript to this Section of the thread on Hippies. > > Hippie "Business" Departments mostly began to be named Management > Departments > around the time that the Soviet Union and China were recognized as Big > Powers, although some had begun being named that way one or two decades > after the USSR was established. > > Today, Hippies, whether in the non-capitalist bloc of > Russia and China for example or in the capitalist bloc, are almost > identical in their allegiance to the political use of engineering, AI, > operations research, computers, and the various applied statistical > branches, with logarithms and conditional probability and Bayesian > probability-statistics central to Hippie ideas. Part of it was > reinforced (in the psychological sense) by publication in each others' > Peer-Reviewed Journals, part was pure Imitation, part was "exchange of > ideas" that comes with diplomacy (which is about half espionage and > half Imitation, although espionage itself has an unknown to us amount > of Imitation), part was Mediocrity, and part was Materialism especially > Greed-Materialism. Microsoft alone decades ago invested enormous funds > in Bayesian-type research "decision-making" algorithms and programs > using almost the straight list of departments that I cited earlier. > > Hippies decision to make 4 groups/categories the "pets" of his term > in office, namely blacks, gays, computer corporations, and > entertainment corporations, almost by itself won the battle for the > Bayesian/conditional/logarithmic Mainstream via the computer > corporations. It wasn't a coincidence. It was the "Strategic > thinking" at the time, if Strategy refers to the Think Tanks which come > in turn from Academia and Espionage. Computers would win the world. > Nobody thought of guerrila Islamist movements at that time, which don't > compute, unless it was the Russia-China-France-Islamist Axis so to > speak. Nobody thought that Jobs would be taken away by computers on a > serious level, including Supermarket checker jobs, theoretical > mathematics and theoretical science jobs, and even clerical and manual > labor jobs, or that the remaining jobs would get duller and more > mediocre as Theory and Abstraction was almost entirely replaced by > collecting data for the computers to number-crunch. Nobody thought > that teachers and professors would become computer-slaves via classroom > computers which by the way turn a lucrative profit for several Big > Corporations, and McDonalds (I was once fired for opposing them). But the > Carter-Clinton Diplomacy Think Tanks and Corporations and State > Department had to be listened to rather than "bite the hand that feeds > us." > > Osher Doctorow >
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