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Article #1479Re: Relativity
From: Robert S. Fritzius
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:56
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:56
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In article <1992Jul22.150401.15820@news.endg.convex.com> Steve Warren
writes:
>. . .
>...When particles get zinging around near c in, say, the Bevatron
>here at Berkeley, not only does it require more enery to accelertate
>them, but when they smash into something (...) the energy released
>is significantly *more* than can be accounted for by the particles
>rest mass...
In article <1992Jul24.230350.16042@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Cameron
Bass responds:
>>One could always say that the field merrily trails along with the
>>particle and carries the energy. ...
If we set aside Ritz's (1908) assertion that his emission particles obey
Galilean relativity, and have them traveling at the speed of light, say
with respect to the Bevatron, then the emission particle fluxes should
compress (in Doppler-like fashion) in the forward direction of Bevatron
passengers and constitute shock-wave like electrodynamic hammers.
How do we (un-ambiguously) differentiate between energy released by a
hypothetical "electrodynamic hammer" such as in the previous paragraph
(or the energy trailing along in the field, according to Bass) and the
effects of a relativistically increased mass smashing into things.
>>... A bigger problem, though, is explaining other things like the
>>apparently physical time dilation experienced by things like mesons.
In nuclear fission, fast neutrons need to be slowed way down to thermal
speeds to increase the likelihood of their entering into neutron capture
events. It's as though there is a minimum value of neutron dwell-time in
close proximity to a nucleus required to enable the capture.
Perhaps for mesons there is a velocity related dwell-time factor
at work in their decay mechanism in addition to (or rather than) a
time-dilation effect.
>>. . .
>>It is interesting that, Pauli's assertions notwithstanding, it was
>>not until the 60's that there was good evidence that Ritz's theory
>>was not really tenable. The relevant measurements involve direct
>>time of flight experiments with things like gamma rays with huge
>>extinction distances emitted from fast-moving pions (...) seem to
>>indicate beyond reasonable doubt that light does not travel at c
>>with respect to the source. ...
One possible problem with these types of experiments is that we have
not had measurements (inside the target material) of the actual velocity
of the pions at the times they emitted the gamma rays.
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