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Article #15176Re: . Of quanta and planets .
From: Sergey Karavashkin
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:44
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:44
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qed100@hotmail.com (Mark Martin) wrote in message news:<7d087978.0402021106.773764c2@posting.google.com>... > Jeff Relf <Me@Privacy.NET> wrote in message news:<1cz63pwj40o8r.dlg@x.Jeff.Relf>... > > Hi Sergey Karavashkin , > > Re: Your site , > > http://angelfire.lycos.com/la3/selftrans/v4_1/contents4.html#nstar > > > > This is what I think you're axiom is ... > > > > The laws of physics , including the speed of light , > > are the same regardless of one's hypothetical scale . > > > > Only I'd add that space, time and heat must all be scaled . > > ( Where heat is fundamentally random mass-energy . > > And where it's always one's incomplete information > > that " Causes " any apparent randomness . ) > > > > What a fantastic axiom ... > > A refinement to general and special relativity ... > > At long last . > > It's only a refinement at long last if it happens to pan out > observationally. Does it? Yes, exactly. Just this is what we do in our laboratory studying in the areas of electromagnetism, astrophysics, vibration theory, math. methods of modelling and so on. This what we do is experimentally checkable in classical physics. In Relativity - sorry, this is their headache. ;-) > > > Re: The cause of the earth's magnetic field , > > > > I think you're saying that the heat and compression > > inside our planet creates a new state of matter > > which is positively charged locally , > > but negatively charged outside the planet . > > > > Re: Sun spots and such , > > > > They're like flowers , aren't they ? > > > > I think you're saying that they explain how planets > > would be formed given that > > a star's centrifugal force was sufficiently large . > > > > The ejected matter would then form stable orbits , > > creating something like " Quanta " ... planets . > > This stinks of Velikovsky. And it also doesn't work. How fast did > the Sun have to be spinning to eject the planets? In addition, what'd > happen to a piece of solar ejecta? Does it form a stable orbit? Not > all by itself it doesn't. It's impossible. With no subsequent delta-V > an ejectile at less than escape velocity will follow a ballistic > trajectory which brings it right back into the Sun. The path starts at > the Sun, and it must end there. What happens if we launch a satellite > to orbit? Once it gets to apoapsis it's necessary to impart a very > specific velocity change to insert it into a stable orbit which > touches the apoapsis tangentially. So where are the ejectile-planets > getting their extra delta-V from once they get out away from the Sun? > > -Mark Martin As we can judge, you are correct here, too, though Noskov has another opinion. Above the high speed, ejections have to have compact mass and consist of massive chemical elements. This all is very doubtful, and this adds to your confidence that ejections from sun spots cannot form planets. Regards, Sergey
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1038c2,257b2f4cf54a66dc X-Google-Attributes: gid1038c2,public X-Google-Thread: f74ae,257b2f4cf54a66dc X-Google-Attributes: gidf74ae,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,257b2f4cf54a66dc X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,257b2f4cf54a66dc X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public X-Google-Thread: 106ae0,257b2f4cf54a66dc X-Google-Attributes: gid106ae0,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-08 14:44:21 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,fj.sci.matter Subject: Re: . Of quanta and planets . Date: 8 Feb 2004 14:44:21 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 72 Message-ID: <a42650fc.0402081444.48df5cd@posting.google.com> References: <a42650fc.0402011436.70900971@posting.google.com> <1cz63pwj40o8r.dlg@x.Jeff.Relf> <7d087978.0402021106.773764c2@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.177.112.246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1076280261 14237 127.0.0.1 (8 Feb 2004 22:44:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 22:44:21 +0000 (UTC)