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Re: On the nature of red shift of Metagalaxy

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From: Sergey Karavashkin
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:15
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shrikanthas@yahoo.com (Shrikantha S. Shastry) wrote in message news:<92a87ac5.0303292225.2f8fc42f@posting.google.com>...
> Trouble with the universe is that it cannot be believed. Scientists
> explore the universe under the assumption that the universe is real,
> unaware of its illusory nature. The universe is indeed unreal or
> illusory with respect to its actual reality, the singularity. And so,
> the illusory universe can only lead to delusory conclusions. Creation
> of the universe and its evolution are our major delusory conclusions.
> No wonder paradoxes keep cropping up in any such theory.
> 
> Observations and measurements may indeed lead to conclusions about the
> universe which being illusory never exists. Then, what about those
> conclusions? For more details and consequences see in steps, Conscious
> worldview;
> 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=92a87ac5.0301210236.4169197f%40posting.google.com

Thank you for your respond, Mr Shastry. It means that you are
monitoring the processes and people of 'erroneous way'. It also seems,
you are challenging us to continue this eternal dispute of our ways of
comprehension. Okay, let us.

I agree, a man is able to comprehend only the things achievable for
his observations, and this always reserves a possibility to say, "only
this surrounding is real, no reality is beyond the boundary of
achievable". The progress moves apart the limits of achievable, and
every time it appears that beyond the old limit there is also the
Real. It appears the same tangible, graspable and usable as everything
known before.

Please see an example. 500 years ago there were no telescopes, so
people could speak of a solid celestial sphere similar to the Roof of
the Covenant Ark and of stars connected to it, just like the Roof is
decorated with jewels, and this construction had the Earth in its
centre. The telescopes have been invented, and people were amazed
seeing multitude worlds and that the Earth is not an exclusion and not
the centre. However the observations had the engineering limitations.
With their lifting, the area of observations and of our knowledge of
the universe also broadened. Then people flied to the space and saw
and tangled many things themselves. Everything which is achievable for
today appeared real, material, measurable. The same has been
discovered in penetrating to the depths of substance - to the
micro-universe. Of course, human knowledge is much contradictive, but
personally I know the only way to be never mistaken - this is to do
nothing. The new knowledge lifts old discrepancies, the useful result
remains.

The entire history of mankind corroborates such course of events. We
nowhere found a corroboration for your thesis of irreality beyond our
yesterday scope. We everywhere have a corroboration of the fact you
are trying to disprove. None the less, you are insisting, though you,
the same as all other people, use the achievements of just our way.
That's a contradiction! To solve it and to lift once and forever, let
us be consistent. Let only the people consecutively adhering to the
way of comprehension of the real, material world enjoy the results of
the scientific knowledge and engineering progress, and let the people
insisting that the universe is illusory will not enjoy the goods
achieved in the 'hostile' way. Please do leave your computer, phone,
car, home, and even your dress and food - this all without exception
has been obtained from the unified, here and there material universe
by way of endeavouring to master it (and to the point, in your
computer and mobile phone the space does work for you). Don't you
think that you can stay naked, homeless and hungry and you may wish to
return to this all what you have?

Then, please do not act against your conscience.

Olga Karavashkina.
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From: selflab@go.com (Sergey Karavashkin)
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Subject: Re: On the nature of red shift of Metagalaxy
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