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Article #15294Re: On the nature of red shift of Metagalaxy
From: Shrikantha S. Shastry
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:07
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:07
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> > > shrikanthas@yahoo.com (Shrikantha S. Shastry) wrote in message news:<92a87ac5.0303292225.2f8fc42f@posting.google.com>... > > [snip] > > > Are you reluctant to recognise singularity by wishing away > > singularities? Again, it is very important to know the nature of > > singularity before any conclusions are made about the universe which > > turns out to be illusory. > > > > First of all, singularity by its unbridgeable gap with universe, > > obviously negates the whole universe and even the zero at which it > > occurs. Now, there is nothing else out there to deny singularity and > > how can it disappear by itself, as understood by you others? > > Singularity crops up in field theories inevitably, but in singularity > > none of them are there. And so, singularity is deepest reality where > > there is neither the universe nor its observers and hence what about > > any theory? > > > You see, my attitude to the singularities is quiet, I don't make > fetish of them, as you do. We saw singularities in ideal models and > saw them vanishing when the resistance appeared. Not only we saw, > these are well known facts. You don't want to admit it, you feel > convenient to make a fetish - this is your problem. Olga wrote you > already, if you strongly take this point, you have to refuse all the > attributes of civilisation, as they contradict your conception of > irreal and unknown world. Otherwise the name of such behaviour is - a > tail plash. The singularity arises in the field theory - this is what > I told you, the consequence of our abstractions. There in nature are > no sharp boundaries, discontinuities or hollows. All these boundaries > arise in our abstracting. Even the light velocity, which is postulated > by relativists as a limit of any propagation velocity, in the nature > is inconstant, and there exist experimentally well tested facts > showing that in the radiation near field the signal propagation > velocity can well exceed the velocity of light. > > I fully understand, your attempts to deny the cognoscibility are > caused by your wish to defend the relativism and to nullify the > conceptions disproving it. As I see from your posts, you don't doubt > BB neither the relativism, speaking of some zero point where the > entire universe was located. However unintentionally you disprove just > these conceptions, showing their bankruptcy even at the very > elementary level of proof. Please do deny for your heart full content. > Development goes on, and your disregard of physical causation of > phenomena does not influence on it, good Heavens. > > Sergey Now it seems there is an unbridgeable gap between your concept of 'singularities' vanishing away and my new interpretation of the universe based on singularity. First of all, it is the universe which is vanishable at the singularity and not the singularity. For, singularity can never be denied as there is nothing else to deny it in its reality. Singularity alone is the deepest reality. The universe observed on it therefore has to be illusory. Now, denial of the singularity obviously belongs to this illusory universe and so denial turns out to be illusory, unfortunately.
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