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Article #15309Re: New Year question from Leo
From: Franz Heymann
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:16
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:16
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"Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:3ffbed28$1@epflnews.epfl.ch... > > "Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message > news:slrnbvmv8g.93j.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net... > > Harry: > > SNIP > > > >Except for low velocities, Einstein's theorems are incompatible with > > >Newton's equations. > > >Similarly, Ampere's equations are partially incompatible with those of > > >Maxwell. > > > > That's non-sense. Newtonian physics is a limiting case of relativity. > > Ampere's law is a limiting case of maxwell's equations (i.e., quasi- > > static fields). A theory which is a limiting case of another theory > > indicates compatibility and specifies why one is the limit of the > > other. Two theories which are incompatible make different predictions > > about the same phenomena in a way that the difference cannot be > > resolved in terms of a domain of applicability. > > Now this is a point that has been a bit foggy to me for a long time, and > advice is welcome. > > Ampere's electrical force law uses the third law of Newton. > According to a number of people, the third law of Newton is violated with > Maxwell's and relativity theory. That is incorrect. Newton's third law is never violated. Those people who say so are simply unaware of the frour-momentum transferred to the field. > But despite reading about it, and despite > the apparent simplicity of the issue, I'm still not sure if they are right > or not; it seems you disagree. Perhaps the issue is more subtle than that? > Franz
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f545,ef7eb0d662ead2d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,ef7eb0d662ead2d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,ef7eb0d662ead2d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 1038c2,ef7eb0d662ead2d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid1038c2,public X-Google-Thread: 106ae0,ef7eb0d662ead2d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ae0,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-07 09:17:11 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsr1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!btnet-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "Franz Heymann" <notfranz.heymann@btopenworld.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,fj.sci.matter,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: New Year question from Leo Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 40 Message-ID: <btheu3$ml$3@titan.btinternet.com> References: <a42650fc.0312231529.65b841bd@posting.google.com> <a42650fc.0312281440.1ee617e7@posting.google.com> <2a0cceff.0312281924.7853d32f@posting.google.com> <a42650fc.0401041424.31edb781@posting.google.com> <btbcc0$qri$5@titan.btinternet.com> <3ff969fe$1@epflnews.epfl.ch> <ZjfKb.74347$by2.859190@wagner.videotron.net> <3ffa73fa$1@epflnews.epfl.ch> <slrnbvmv8g.93j.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> <3ffbed28$1@epflnews.epfl.ch> Reply-To: "Franz Heymann" <franz.heymann@btopenworld.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-50-187.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1073495812 725 213.122.50.187 (7 Jan 2004 17:16:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165