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Article #15316Re: Dynamic magnetic field is open
From: Harry
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:31
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:31
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Dear Sergey, I got tired from our discussion, but I did not lift my main objections from my first post. I like to elaborate on one point that I only hinted at at first and then I only roughly sketched it. I had the impression, and you did not comment on it, that you treat a surface integral as if it is a line integral, with very bad consequences, and I mentioned dimensional analysis. According to you, for an experiment in which you have a wire just inside a rectangular gap, either along the long or the short side: "my emf has to depend on ratio between the long and short sides of gap. " I concluded from that - in agreement from what I concluded from your paper - that then the emf should be proportional to the length of the wire inside the gap, as the forces of moving charges simply add up. Then EMF = length * <speed of change of flux> or: Volt = m * Wb/m^2 /s = Wb/s /m = V*s/s /m = V/m. That can't be right, and would be detected when for example changing the scale of designed electromotors. As I wrote, according to standard theory, Volt = surface * <speed of change of flux>. Thus Volt = m^2 * Wb/m^2 /s = Wb/s = V*s/s = V Best wishes for 2004! Harald
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