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Article #15402Re: Free Falling object...
From: Jim Carr
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:00
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"koktc" <koktc@maxis.com.my> writes:
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Please do not post both plain text and HTML to a newsgroup that is
an ascii-only medium. It wastes bandwidth to duplicate the text.
>Anyhow, there's a simplified version of my question is:
>" Why does an object being thrown up has a negative acceleration and
>fall freely with also a negative accelerations ?"
Simplified answer: because that is how you defined your coordinate
system when you drew it as your first step in solving the problem.
>My Point of view is:
>" Any object being thrown up will definately have a negative
>acceleration because the direction of the object is the opposite of the
>gravitational force. But when the object starts to fall freely will
>surely have a positive acceleration because the direction of the object
>is the same as the gravitational force. "
You almost said that the acceleration is positive because it is
in the same direction as the negative velocity, which would have
made your misconception explicit.
That is, it looks like your misconception is that a "positive
acceleration" results in an increase in speed, a view that is
consistent with casual usage but which ignores the vector nature
of the quantities used in physics.
If you use the casual terminology, you have to change signs manually
to make the equations give the right answer, whereas if you draw a
coordinate system and use it for all of your vectors, the equations
(F=ma and the others that follow from this) apply without any fiddling.
Since one of the main things you need to learn in a first physics class
is how to use precise mathematical expressions in place of casual language,
this is something you need to understand and that your teacher should be
able to explain further by having you work out DeltaV/DeltaT for specific
cases and see that the acceleration can be negative if a negative velocity
is becoming more negative as an object falls.
--
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