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Article #15413Re: The Graph of the Universe.
From: Mark Fergerson
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:00
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Tomohide Sonoda wrote: > > Mark Fergerson wrote in message <3880C7E1.5855020F@home.com>... > >Tomohide Sonoda wrote: > >> > >> What do you think about the graph of the universe? > >> > >> The graph is here. > >> http://www.besci.com/ > > > > Um, what about the extremes (where the really interesting stuff > >usually is)? Like the fact that EM can't propagate below 10 E-15 m or > >so? Why not? Think about it. > > In the present, strong interaction, weak interaction, EM and gravity exist. > But I think we have to think about new one if we admit that extremes. That was kinda my point. I was referring to the "Unification Energies" of the so-called four fundamental forces (superseded by string theory variants, but still true). Ignore the next paragraph if you already know what I'm talking about. As you make measurements at increasing (from 10 E-43 or so m) distances, new forces, or more accurately, new aspects of old forces, appear. At very small distances, "the force" is solely attractive, unipolar, and affects everything. We call it gravity. At larger distances, multipolar forces which affect different aspects of matter appear; two of those forces aren't distance-limited. Any attempt at making a connection between gravity and any other "fundamental" force will have to take this into account. We _must_ take extremes into account; that's where we find the limits of our knowledge and learn new things. At extreme short range, only one force operates. At very long ranges, only two are noticeable. Why? I don't think it's because the galaxy or the universe is comparable to a large atom. I don't understand the in-phase rotation of galaxies any better than anyone else, and invoking an FTL gravity-like force doesn't make sense unless we assume it only works between a few parsecs and a few hundred thousand. Why would that be true? Mark L. Fergerson
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 114713,7cdce73548a3d3e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid114713,public X-Google-Thread: f6c41,7cdce73548a3d3e7 X-Google-Attributes: gidf6c41,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,7cdce73548a3d3e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: fdc67,7f2cbcf3c0fac93d X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc67,public X-Google-Thread: 1038c2,7f2cbcf3c0fac93d X-Google-Attributes: gid1038c2,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,7cdce73548a3d3e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public From: Mark Fergerson <mfergerson1@home.com> Subject: Re: The Graph of the Universe. Date: 2000/01/16 Message-ID: <388248D2.518FF0E2@home.com> X-Deja-AN: 573488612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <85ok7i$lfu$1@dolf.netfront.net> <3880C7E1.5855020F@home.com> <85qval$1fb$1@dolf.netfront.net> X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.az.home.com 948058902 24.1.229.183 (Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:41:42 PST) Organization: @Home Network Member MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:41:42 PST Newsgroups: sci.physics,fj.sci.physics,sci.physics.electromag,sci.physics.particle,alt.astronomy,alt.sci.physics.new-theories