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Re: The Graph of the Universe.

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From: Mark Fergerson
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:00
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Tomohide Sonoda wrote:
> 
> Mark Fergerson wrote in message <3880C7E1.5855020F@home.com>...
> >Tomohide Sonoda wrote:
> >>
> >> What do you think about the graph of the universe?
> >>
> >> The graph is here.
> >> http://www.besci.com/
> >
> >  Um, what about the extremes (where the really interesting stuff
> >usually is)? Like the fact that EM can't propagate below 10 E-15 m or
> >so? Why not? Think about it.
> 
> In the present, strong interaction, weak interaction, EM and gravity exist.
> But I think we have to think about new one if we admit that extremes.

  That was kinda my point. I was referring to the "Unification
Energies" of the so-called four fundamental forces (superseded by
string theory variants, but still true). Ignore the next paragraph if
you already know what I'm talking about.

  As you make measurements at increasing (from 10 E-43 or so m)
distances, new forces, or more accurately, new aspects of old forces,
appear. At very small distances, "the force" is solely attractive,
unipolar, and affects everything. We call it gravity. At larger
distances, multipolar forces which affect different aspects of matter
appear; two of those forces aren't distance-limited. Any attempt at
making a connection between gravity and any other "fundamental" force
will have to take this into account.

  We _must_ take extremes into account; that's where we find the
limits of our knowledge and learn new things. At extreme short range,
only one force operates. At very long ranges, only two are noticeable.
Why? I don't think it's because the galaxy or the universe is
comparable to a large atom.

  I don't understand the in-phase rotation of galaxies any better than
anyone else, and invoking an FTL gravity-like force doesn't make sense
unless we assume it only works between a few parsecs and a few hundred
thousand. Why would that be true?

  Mark L. Fergerson
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Date: 2000/01/16
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