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Article #15452Re: Query - How valves and transistors work
From: Duncan Barclay
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:00
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In article <d1dLzCAjKri2EwAr@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes: > > The enquirer is clearly a beginner, who needs the maximum assistance to > understand the topics that he will be exposed to. It is very likely > that, if he is not frustrated by over-rigorous expositions, he will soon > come across circuit analysis software, such as SPICE, which uses > controlled-source models. It will be no help to him to have been told > that the *only* valid controlled-source model is the VCCS, even though > that corresponds to the physical model of controlled conduction that you > advocate. > > The exclusive adoption of the VCCS model for valves, bipolars and FETs > would actually obscure the essential differences between them, at least > up to undergraduate level. This thread started with someone (Nightjar) asking how they worked. Out of four replies I followed up on one because the answer was wrong, the other three were right. The orignal thread was not asking how they were modelled. > I can't see any good reason for not mentioning that the configuration of > the device when in use affects the optimum choice of controlled-source > model. I'm sorry my use of the term VCCS has led to this pointless arguing that BJTs etc. are not "ideal" VCCS. I didn't say anything about modeling, I just said that all of valves, FETs and BJTs are physically device where current is controlled by a voltage, a vccs for short. Equivalent circuit modelling, use the best for the job. s-parameter, hybrid pi whatever. I don't personally use the CCCS model too often as it doesn't hekp in most of the circuits I design (apart from current mirrors). Duncan -- ________________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | God smiles upon the little children, dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned. ________________________________________________________________________
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fcc1a,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gidfcc1a,public X-Google-Thread: 112d1e,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid112d1e,public X-Google-Thread: 1118be,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid1118be,public X-Google-Thread: 107d45,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid107d45,public X-Google-Thread: 1110fe,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid1110fe,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 111d0a,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid111d0a,public X-Google-Thread: 114713,6f59d673fceaf3aa X-Google-Attributes: gid114713,public From: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk (Duncan Barclay) Subject: Re: Query - How valves and transistors work Date: 1999/01/01 Message-ID: <76ibj9$rhc$1@computer.my.domain> X-Deja-AN: 427772847 Distribution: world X-NNTP-Posting-Host: ragnet.demon.co.uk:158.152.46.40 References: <368691bc.0@stargazer.actinet.net> <76b08g$jo4$1@news-1.news.gte.net> <76b8i0$rqm$1@computer.my.domain> <fuNEGVAumei2EwR5@jmwa.demon.co.uk> <76dss3$fhq$1@computer.my.domain> <d1dLzCAjKri2EwAr@jmwa.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 915215510 nnrp-01:17901 NO-IDENT ragnet.demon.co.uk:158.152.46.40 Organization: Ragnet, a small network of machines at Raggy's home. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,fj.sci.physics,sci.physics.electromag,tnn.physics,news.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc