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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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On Dec 3, 5:25 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> But certainly "length contraction" and "time dilation" in relativity do 
> not
> involve any sort of "change" in the object itself, they are indeed due to
> being "seen, so to speak, from different angle" (4-d angles, of course).
> Tom Roberts

Absolutely correct, Honest Roberts. Silly brothers Einsteinians claim
that the pole is "trapped IN A COMPRESSED STATE inside the barn":

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  Not a "COMPRESSED STATE", Valev. They, some of them, can envision 
potentially larger possibilities (some possibilities vastly differing from 
others), however far out, than apparently you can ever even begin to 
imagine. That longer pole, without compressing, or being compressed, one 
little bit, could actually -possibly- fit in that shorter barn with both 
doors closing, and closed, upon it. Try a velocity for the 
traveling -longer- pole (relative to the shorter barn) negative to the 
barn's RELATIVE zero of velocity. Without 'compressing' in the least bit 
within its own frame, that pole would become *apparently* shorter and ever 
shorter, *apparently* smaller and ever smaller (physically more distant and 
ever more distant from the barn into the greater depths of the Universe / 
Multiverse), within the frame of the [at rest] barn....between the two 
closing, and closed, doors of the barn [at rest].

  Or do you think that barn sitting there is doing an absolute of zero 
velocity in the Universe. That nothing, nothing at all, in the Multiverse 
can travel slower than it, relatively speaking, that is. I can envision the 
barn's immediate frame ("frame" in more senses of 'frame' than just one) an 
expanding universe relative to the pole's immediate frame, the pole's local 
universe a contracting universe relative to the surrounding barn's local 
universe. The pole's departing the barn (also the Earth, the Solar System, 
and maybe even the galaxy (and maybe even the local universe of the galaxy)) 
by another route than the doors, the walls, the ceiling or the floor, under 
negative way: under a *relative* velocity negative to zero.

  So the pole would not at all be "trapped IN A COMPRESSED STATE inside the 
barn". You've got terrible vision, Valev, really terrible. Your mind's eyes 
need glasses....glasses with strong (thick) lenses.

GLB

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