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Article #15703Re: Dark Age of Cosmology
From: PD
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:07
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:07
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On Aug 6, 2:16 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 6, 8:09 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 7:31 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 12:27 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 6, 6:56 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > There is never "too far". Nature is what it is, as shown in > > > > > > experiment. If nature is very, very strange, then that's what it is. > > > > > > You are Absolutely Correct again, Clever Draper. For instance nature > > > > > says, through the Pound-Rebka experiment, that the gravitational > > > > > frequency shift is: > > > > > > f' = f(1 + V/c^2) > > > > > > and that's what it is isn't it Clever Draper. On the other hand Divine > > > > > Albert gives two equations for the variation of the speed of light in > > > > > a gravitational field: > > > > > > (A) c' = c(1 + V/c^2) > > > > > > (B) c' = c(1 + 2V/c^2) > > > > > > Which equation Clever Draper - (A) or (B) - is consistent with the > > > > > gravitational frequency shift equation? Is the inconsistent one wrong? > > > > > Einstein zombie world is constantly singing "Divine Einstein" and does > > > > > not give a shit about both (A) and (B) but I have the impression that > > > > > you are not a typical zombie and CAN answer the questions. So? > > > > > So, what's the deal, Pentcho? Are you asking me to try and teach you > > > > so that it DOES make sense to you? Are you asking me to help you > > > > reconcile your common sense to what nature really does? Are you trying > > > > to get a free education on the internet? > > > > Typical zombie. But don't worry - even your masters are not allowed to > > > comment on this. This is the Achilles’s heel of Divine Albert's Divine > > > Theory. > > > I don't think so. You have a habit of taking formulas out of context > > and comparing them, Pentcho, as though all formulas need to have > > universal applicability. > > > To give you a more basic example, so you can see the issue, elementary > > physics have both of these forces for the force of gravity acting on > > an object. > > > F_g = mg. > > F_g = GMm/r^2. > > > Now, the bonehead would look at these and say, This is the Achilles's > > heel of Divine Newton's Divine Theory, because they both can't be > > right. After all, g is a constant and the second equation varies with > > r. And so which of these is right? If Newtonian mechanics lists both, > > doesn't this mean that Newtonian mechanics is dead in the water? > > > Of course not. Only a bonehead would say that. > > > Are you having difficulties with context, Pentcho? > > > PD > > Master say zombie discuss c'=c(1+V/c^2) and c'=c(1+2V/c^2) not. I said no such thing. I said it would be best to look at them in the proper *context* where they are used. Just as it's best to look at the *context* of the formulas in the example I gave, lest there be a Valev paroxysm in the offing. > Zombie > discuss c'=c(1+V/c^2) and c'=c(1+2V/c^2) not. Master say zombie > introduce silly red herring yes. Zombie introduce silly red herring > yes. Master say bravo zombie yes. Zombie sing "Divine Einstein" yes. > Master repeat bravo zombie yes. Zombie go into convulsions yes. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com
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