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Article #15923Re: Defining a Time Constant
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:44
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:44
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On 28 Aug, 10:56, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in sci.physics: > On Aug 27, 11:48 pm, "gu...@hotmail.com" <gu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > On Aug 28, 1:56 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > JM Albuquerque wrote: > > > > Since gravity always exists, how is it possible that all experiments agree > > > > with SR, even if they have been done on a gravity environment. > > > > This is not true. Only those experiments for which gravity is negligible > > > agree with SR. SR cannot handle gravitation -- that realization is what > > > started Einstein on his decade-long trek from SR to GR. > > > And likewise neither SR "or" Gr handle relativistic aberration which > > also affects Lorentz measurements. > > > > Physics is a QUANTITATIVE science, and while gravity in principle > > > negates one's ability to apply SR, in practice if the effects of > > > gravitation are significantly smaller than your experimental > > > resolutions, you can use SR with negligible error. This is true, for > > > instance, for most tabletop optical and electrical experiments on earth > > > as long as their components are supported against gravity; it is also > > > true for all elementary particle experiments performed at accelerators. > > > Yet the muons life span doesn't seem affected by relativistic > > aberration, unless perhaps very little such as with gravity. > > > SR: If the time interval shrinks as the travel distance(Lorentz' > > length contraction) shrinks > > GR: or if the time interval shrinks as space warps due to gravity > > > Relativistic Aberration: then likewise the time interval should shrink > > as the entire space shrinks due to relativistic aberration (as > > spacetime shrinks). > > Length/time contraction are projective effects in the same idea as > rotating a ruler can make the length projected upon your eyes smaller. Gisse Gisse your masters do not want you to write such idiocies anymore. Some of your masters are able to trap long trains inside short tunnels and long poles inside short barns and your idiocies may convince the public that in fact your masters are not able to trap long trains inside short tunnels and long poles inside short barns: http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/f61b670c37e719f9? Pentcho Valev
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