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Article #15930Re: 6 FACTS why Relativists are a bunch of liars
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:13
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:13
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On 25 Aug, 11:49, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO- SperM.hotmail.com> wrote: > "Pmb" <some...@somewhere.net> wrote in messagenews:iO2dnTMs84Au-lLbnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote > > in messagenews:AbCzi.69371$re7.1943753@phobos.telenet-ops.be... > > >> "Pmb" <some...@somewhere.net> wrote in message > >>news:SYSdnbH9rLdudFPbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com... > > >>> "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> > >>> wrote in messagenews:rjBzi.69303$IS1.1671200@phobos.telenet-ops.be... > > >>>> "Pmb" <some...@somewhere.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:GeGdnTQOHsEDTFPbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com... > > >>>>> "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> > >>>>> wrote in messagenews:_Nzzi.69172$ve7.1947853@phobos.telenet-ops.be... > > >>>>>> "qbit" <q...@quantumworldz.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:famg2r$lg5$1@aioe.org... > >>>>>>> FACT #1: > >>>>>>> A photon emitted at the Earth surface (ignoring air-resistance) and > >>>>>>> going up vertically into the space is SLOWER than a photon > >>>>>>> going straightforward in vacuum space; ie. slower than c. > >>>>>>> Reason: attraction by the Earth gravity. > > >>>>>> Some of us could make some very interesting and relatively > >>>>>> subtle remarks about this statement, and no doubt some of > >>>>>> us already did just that in the past, when you were using one > >>>>>> of your previous identities. Your evidently arrogant attitude of > >>>>>> refusal and inability to learn prohibited you to do anything > >>>>>> useful with the responses and remarks given to you. > >>>>>> So, apart from the negative attention you new get, what > >>>>>> makes you stick around, other than some kind of sick > >>>>>> masochism, and what makes you think that people should > >>>>>> waste their time trying to help and educate an unwilling, > >>>>>> ignorant, and obviously less gifted person you like you? > > >>>>>> Dirk Vdm > > >>>>> Hi Dirk > > >>>>> Do you see a problem with his post? Can you share that with me? I don't > >>>>> see any problem. > > >>>> I you carefully read my comment (perhaps a few times), > >>>> you should realize that I see a severe problem with the > >>>> *person* :-) > > >>>> Dirk Vdm > > >>> I know you have a problem with the *person*. That's obvious. I was > >>> wondering if you had a problem with the physics? > > >> Perhaps you should read the first sentence of my original > >> comment a few more times :-) > > >> Dirk Vdm > > > Yup. All I can find about your objection to the post is this > > > "Some of us could make some very interesting and relatively subtle remarks > > about this statement.." > > > However I don't see an obvious error in that statement. > > I said that some of us could make some very interesting and > relatively subtle remarks about this statement. That does > not imply that are errors in the statement. That probably is > because you (with your physics background) make some > implicit assumptions about the wording of the statement, which > the OP (as a higschool kid without the proper context) does > not make. This happens all the time here, as you well know. > > > I know there is a > > variability if iin photon speed with height. He may have got it backwards in > > that the photon is slowing down as it leaves the field. Is this what you > > were refering to Dirk? > > No. > Why don't you have another guess? > Hint: there are two interesting and subtle remarks to be made. > One remark is sligtly relevant, the other is highy relevant and > in fact essential. In your other replies on this thread you > consistently forget to mention it. I can imagine that the other > contextless posters are (and will probably remain forever) > confused by this. Moortel Moortel only a few years ago your idiocies were still extremely efficient - your brothers even regarded you as a powerful hypnotist, not just a silly zombie. Things change quickly don't they Moortel Moortel. Pentcho Valev
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,dca777a0c4f0c44b X-Google-Thread: 10f545,dca777a0c4f0c44b X-Google-Thread: f74ae,ce512d1a14e62004 X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,ce512d1a14e62004 X-Google-Thread: 111645,ce512d1a14e62004 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid10f545,gidf74ae,gidfa4c1,gid111645,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique Subject: Re: 6 FACTS why Relativists are a bunch of liars Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:13:16 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 96 Message-ID: <1188033196.943485.319230@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <famg2r$lg5$1@aioe.org> <_Nzzi.69172$ve7.1947853@phobos.telenet-ops.be> <GeGdnTQOHsEDTFPbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com> <rjBzi.69303$IS1.1671200@phobos.telenet-ops.be> <SYSdnbH9rLdudFPbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@comcast.com> <AbCzi.69371$re7.1943753@phobos.telenet-ops.be> <iO2dnTMs84Au-lLbnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com> <G2Szi.70629$Ul6.2048141@phobos.telenet-ops.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.159 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1188033197 27931 127.0.0.1 (25 Aug 2007 09:13:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:13:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <G2Szi.70629$Ul6.2048141@phobos.telenet-ops.be> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.159; posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0