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Article #15941Re: Quantum Tunneling, Nonspatiality and Panicky Relativists
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:07
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:07
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On 21 Aug, 07:37, Traveler <trave...@noasskissers.net> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:57:04 GMT, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote: > >Louis Savain aka "Traveler" <trave...@noasskissers.net> wrote in > >messagenews:i2hjc3hpo294h9b5f37nhugdkgg9e0ln3c@4ax.com... > >> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> > >> wrote: > >>>OK but in the end we shall have to return to the most important WORD > >>>in contemporary physics: > >>>http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/"...light is > >>>always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is > >>>INDEPENDENT of the state of motion of the emitting body." > > >>>INDEPENDENT or DEPENDENT? That is the question. > > >[Louis] > >> Pentcho, forget it. Soon, Einstein will be a mere footnote in science > >> history. It is obvious to all but the most inveterate and passionate > >> ass kissers that, while the absolute speed of light in a vacuum is > >> constant, the relative speed of light cannot be so, regardless of > >> whether one is refering to the speed relative to the source or to some > >> observer. If the speed of light is measured to be constant relative to > >> all observers, it follows that there is something in our measuring > >> tools that is causing this aberration. The fact is that the relative > >> speed of light is an inherent part of all measuring tools. It's like > >> using a ruler to measure itself: you always get the same answer > >> regardless of the actual length. Same with measuring light speed. > > >> Anybody who disagrees with the above is an ass kisser in my book. > >> ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... > > >[hanson] > >ahahaha... "Anybody who disagrees with the above is an ass kisser". > >ahahahaha... Excellent! That tactic or strategy, as it were, is knows as > >**Savain's Preventative Doctrine** which was copied by the Bush > >admin to prevent wars with fanatics who disagree with him... ahaha... > > I should have patented the technique. In general, it's very effective > against ass kissers. ahahaha... > > >BTW, Did you know, Louis, that you may have laid or you are laying > >the ground work, the fundamentals, the basis to unite the many pieces > >and bits which are classified under the term "Emergent complexity". > > >As I see it, certain adjustments of/in your basics will logically lead, on > >a first principle doctrine, to all kinds of "Emergent complexities" like > >Newtonian physics and SR/GR theories, them emerging as quaint > >"specialty branches" of the them underlaying basis... which Einstein > >was dreaming about when he confessed, close to the end of his life, > >in 1954, as he said to Besso: > >::: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based > >::: on the field concept, i. e., on continuous structures. In that > >::: case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation > >::: theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." -- A.E. > > Yeah, deep down, the man knew he was a shit eater, just like everyone > else. Only his worshippers keep on kissing his dead bony ass. > ahahaha... > > >You have a gargantuan task ahead. Good luck and carry one with > >your SP-Doctrine... ahahahaha.... > > Well, my beef with physicists is that they have all but abandoned > foundational issues. Einstein, for example, postulated that nothing > can move faster than c. Problem is, it's just a fucking guess. He > never did have a clue as to why. The Einstein dingleberries don't know > either. They just love the shit smell. But it did not start with > Einstein. Newton was a chief coward in that respect, what with his > "hypotheses non fingo" crap. To his credit, Newton had the courage to > admit that he had no clue as to why things fall. Privately, he > postulated that massive bodies emitted some sort of "flux" in all > directions but that's as far as he went. This en-gros approach is extremely useful for Einstein criminal cult. You are free to call Newton's "hypotheses non fingo" crap - it depends on the context and your personal preferences - but Newton's particle model of light implies that (in the absence of a gravitational field) the speed of light does depend on the state of motion of the emitting body and more precisely obeys the equation c'=c+v, where c is the speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer. If this is true, then, according to a confession of Einstein's, "nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." I think this is important and deserves a lot of attention. Then you will be free to call crap all the rest of Newton's science, to continue to advertize your book etc. Pentcho Valev
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