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Article #15951Re: Differences RT vs Newton
From: Yanick Toutain
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:28
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:28
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On 11 aoรปt, 09:20, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 11 Aug, 03:10, "qbit" <q...@quantumworldz.com> wrote: > > > What is it that RT can do and classical Newton mechanics cannot do? > > I see only these 3 things that are different between Newton and Einstein: > > 1) relativistic addition of velocities, ie. limiting speeds to c > > 2) time dilation depending on the intensity of the gravity field > > 3) blueshift of light rays due to gravitational attraction > > These can easily be added to Newtonian mechanics. > > Are there any other differences? > > Essentially there is only one difference between Newton and Einstein: > The true implication of Newton's particle model of light according to > which the speed of photons varies with both (1) the relative speed of > the light source and the observer and (2) the gravitational potential, > in Einstein's theory was replaced by two statements: > > (1) Wrong: The speed of light does NOT vary with the relative speed of > the light source and the observer. > > (2) Contradictory: The speed of light does vary with the gravitational > potential in accordance with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2); > also, the speed of light does not vary with the gravitational > potential (is constant in a gravitational field); also, the speed of > light does vary with the gravitational potential but not in accordance > with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2). > > Pentcho Valev Vous ne voulez VRAIMENT pas traduire vos propos ? YT
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