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Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:23
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On 30 July, 15:54, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > On 29 July, 18:29, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> Pentcho Valev wrote stuff:
>
> >>     [snipped]
>
> >>     Are you dense, Pentcho?  See Shapiro Effect
> >>     Consider the time delay of signal passing between the earth and Mars
> >>     due to the curvature of space time by the Sun. Then
>
> >>         delta T_max = (4G M/c^3)*[ln(4 r_mars r_earth/r_sun^2) +1 ]
>
> >>    http://www.geocities.com/newastronomy/animate.htm
>
> >>     BTW, Pentcho -- Gravitational Redshift
> >>http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/GravitationalRedshift.html
>
> > Wormley Wormley why should we consider all the definitions that
> > zombies in Einstein criminal cult have found it suitable to give? It
> > would be much better for us to deal with the interpretation of
> > gravitational redshift given in perhaps the best relativity textbook:
>
> >http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdfpp.2-4
> > "This GR time-dilation effect was first measured at Harvard by Pound
> > and Rebka in 1960. They sent gamma rays up a 20m tower and measured
> > the redshift (that is, the decrease in frequency) at the top. This was
> > a notable feat indeed, considering that they were able to measure a
> > frequency shift of gh/c^2 (which is only a few parts in 10^15) to
> > within 1% accuracy."
>
> > Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
> > following question:
>
> > Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
> > equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
> > gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c
> > +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
> > source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
> > observer?
>
> > Pentcho Valev
>
>    You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the frequency
>    shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c,
>    therefore,
>
>         delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or
>
>         f_new = f_org (1+gh/c^2

Bravo Wormley!

Pentcho Valev
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