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Article #15995Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:23
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:23
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On 30 July, 15:54, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > On 29 July, 18:29, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: > >> Pentcho Valev wrote stuff: > > >> [snipped] > > >> Are you dense, Pentcho? See Shapiro Effect > >> Consider the time delay of signal passing between the earth and Mars > >> due to the curvature of space time by the Sun. Then > > >> delta T_max = (4G M/c^3)*[ln(4 r_mars r_earth/r_sun^2) +1 ] > > >> http://www.geocities.com/newastronomy/animate.htm > > >> BTW, Pentcho -- Gravitational Redshift > >>http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/GravitationalRedshift.html > > > Wormley Wormley why should we consider all the definitions that > > zombies in Einstein criminal cult have found it suitable to give? It > > would be much better for us to deal with the interpretation of > > gravitational redshift given in perhaps the best relativity textbook: > > >http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdfpp.2-4 > > "This GR time-dilation effect was first measured at Harvard by Pound > > and Rebka in 1960. They sent gamma rays up a 20m tower and measured > > the redshift (that is, the decrease in frequency) at the top. This was > > a notable feat indeed, considering that they were able to measure a > > frequency shift of gh/c^2 (which is only a few parts in 10^15) to > > within 1% accuracy." > > > Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the > > following question: > > > Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911 > > equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a > > gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c > > +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light > > source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the > > observer? > > > Pentcho Valev > > You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the frequency > shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c, > therefore, > > delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or > > f_new = f_org (1+gh/c^2 Bravo Wormley! Pentcho Valev
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