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Article #16012Re: A second "big bang"
From: George Dishman
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:29
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:29
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"Dale A Trynor" <dalet@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:3E4FAAA7.BCC3BC66@nbnet.nb.ca... > To be honest now that you mention it I am a bit unsure if the Shapiro > effect is the same or different from the Shapiro delay. Maybe I should > have said Shapiro delay. > Actually I had been planing my own posts asking for more opinions on this > subject myself as it relates to time dilation. I need to weed out any > uncertainties and or differences in opinion now and then further evaluate > the value of the theory I promote, before I start updating my site. > > Joseph Lazio wrote: > > However, nowhere is > > there any mention of a change in the speed of light. Indeed, the > > speed of light in the derivation is conspicuously constant. > > A nice little link I found on a google search that shows how one should > illustrate information for different levels of understanding. I did mean > to mention this idea in the thread Re: Scholars and Crackpots as they were > trying to figure out a " explain it easy concepts page" for them, but was > too lazy today and ran out of time for it. Maybe tomorrow. > http://world.std.com/~sweetser/PopScience/timeDelay/timeDelay.html Isn't this just saying that gravitational bending as the path gets closer to the Sun extends the path therefore it takes longer at the same speed, the Shapiro Delay being the excess over the time in the absence of the Sun? -- George Dishman The arrow of time points in many directions.
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