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"Uncle Ben" <ben@greenba.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 13, 8:09 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> "Uncle Ben" <b...@greenba.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 12, 4:20 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 10, 6:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...@greenba.com> wrote in sci.physics:
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> > > How does the anti-Einstein crowd explain the famous Michelson-Morley
> > > experiment?
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> > > Just to refresh memories, they looked for the ether, trying to measure
> > > the velocity of the earth through it. Their interferometer floated on
> > > the suface of a tank to eliminate vibrations. They tried during
> > > different times of the year, when the motion of the earth around the
> > > sun was going in opposite directions relative to the stars. And they
> > > tried just rotating the interferometer. The sensitivity of the
> > > interferometer was such that they should have been able to detect
> > > motion at a small fraction of the speed of light.
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> > > They never did find any evidence of motion through the ether.
> > > Conclusion: Either a) the luminiferous ether that fills all space and
> > > transmits light to us from the stars is fixed to a floating
> > > interferometer in a tank in the basement of Adelbert Hall at Western
> > > Reserve University, or b) there is no ether, or c) galillean
> > > relativity is wrong, or some combination of these ideas.
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> > > Einstein proposed (independently of this experiment,which he learned
> > > about later) answer c), and that if there is an ether, it is so clever
> > > at hiding from us that we can never detect it.
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> > > What do the anti-relativity folk have to say about this experiment? I
> > > predict that Spaceman will say their interferometer malfunctioned.
> > > Some will say that Michelson and Morley must have been Jewish. Other
> > > than that, I am curious.
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> > > Uncle Ben
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> > If you were somewhat cleverer you question would have been:
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> > "Why on earth didn't they explain the Michelson-Morley experiment in
> > terms of Newton's emission theory of light?"
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> >(snip)
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> You are right, except that in fact they DID -- or at least Spaceman
> and Androcles did. Apparently other people have taken the emission
> theory seriously in recent years, enough to have inspired a search for
> evidence from the spectra of rotating twin stars. They didn't find
> any support for the emission theory. (See Wikipedia on "Emission
> theory of light.)
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> Even way back, Newton dismissed it after a while, saying that it would
> cause astral light spectra to be all jumbled up.
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> Ben
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> What "rotating twin stars"?
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Orbit/Orbit.htm
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> Newton was right, it does "jumble up". It takes a computer to unravel it.
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I admire your elegant animations. As for your physics, as we say in
german, "Die gedanken sind frei."

Ben
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RULES OF REASONING IN PHILOSOPHY.

RULE I.
We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true
and sufficient to explain their appearances.

To this purpose the philosophers say that Nature does nothing in vain,
and more is in vain when less will serve; for Nature is pleased with 
simplicity,
and affects not the pomp of superfluous causes.

-- Sir Isaac Newton - Principia Mathematica.


Nature doesn't care what you say in German and she's not too bothered
about tact or diplomacy either.  If you want to understand her you'll need
a working brain, she can fool you very easily.
As for your thinking, as we say in Anglo-American, it sucks.
  This pencil is broken, I can see it is and even the URL says so.
  http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/optpic/brokpen.jpg
Want to fry your gedanken with that?