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Article #16152Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?
From: Androcles
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:09
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:09
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"Uncle Ben" <ben@greenba.com> wrote in message news:aa846cd5-943f-48f6-bfbc-258093345141@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 12, 4:20 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 10, 6:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...@greenba.com> wrote in sci.physics: > > > > > > > How does the anti-Einstein crowd explain the famous Michelson-Morley > > experiment? > > > Just to refresh memories, they looked for the ether, trying to measure > > the velocity of the earth through it. Their interferometer floated on > > the suface of a tank to eliminate vibrations. They tried during > > different times of the year, when the motion of the earth around the > > sun was going in opposite directions relative to the stars. And they > > tried just rotating the interferometer. The sensitivity of the > > interferometer was such that they should have been able to detect > > motion at a small fraction of the speed of light. > > > They never did find any evidence of motion through the ether. > > Conclusion: Either a) the luminiferous ether that fills all space and > > transmits light to us from the stars is fixed to a floating > > interferometer in a tank in the basement of Adelbert Hall at Western > > Reserve University, or b) there is no ether, or c) galillean > > relativity is wrong, or some combination of these ideas. > > > Einstein proposed (independently of this experiment,which he learned > > about later) answer c), and that if there is an ether, it is so clever > > at hiding from us that we can never detect it. > > > What do the anti-relativity folk have to say about this experiment? I > > predict that Spaceman will say their interferometer malfunctioned. > > Some will say that Michelson and Morley must have been Jewish. Other > > than that, I am curious. > > > Uncle Ben > > If you were somewhat cleverer you question would have been: > > "Why on earth didn't they explain the Michelson-Morley experiment in > terms of Newton's emission theory of light?" > >(snip) You are right, except that in fact they DID -- or at least Spaceman and Androcles did. Apparently other people have taken the emission theory seriously in recent years, enough to have inspired a search for evidence from the spectra of rotating twin stars. They didn't find any support for the emission theory. (See Wikipedia on "Emission theory of light.) Even way back, Newton dismissed it after a while, saying that it would cause astral light spectra to be all jumbled up. Ben ============================================ What "rotating twin stars"? http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Orbit/Orbit.htm Newton was right, it does "jumble up". It takes a computer to unravel it. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LCV.htm
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