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Article #16198Re: Why does light bend under gravity?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:09
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:09
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On Mar 12, 4:03 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > [...] > > You need to learn how to read more accurately. There is nothing in the > quote from Carlip or the quote from Einstein that contradicts anything I > said. > > This is subtle, and your simple-minded approach of extracting quotes out > of context is woefully inadequate. One must UNDERSTAND what is written. No Roberts Roberts this is not subtle at all - the problem is simple but camouflaged by your criminal brothers. You have already realized that Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is consistent with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/4ac792905c8c439c? Now Roberts Roberts you should just draw the implications of this consistency. In particular Roberts Roberts, you should demonstrate that, if the speed of light obeys Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/ c^2) and does not obey the equation c'=c according to which the speed of light is constant in a gravitational field, then there is NO GRAVITATIONAL TIME DILATION. Can you perform this deduction Roberts Roberts? Note Roberts Roberts that you should demonstrate the validity of an IF-CLAUSE, that is, you do not need to know which equation - c'=c(1+V/c^2) or c'=c - is correct. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,1ea0cb1d54d3d906 X-Google-Thread: 10f545,2d47498f99950055 X-Google-Thread: f6c41,2d47498f99950055 X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,c0039b44052ddae9 X-Google-Thread: f74ae,c0039b44052ddae9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid10f545,gidf6c41,gidfa4c1,gidf74ae,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle,fr.sci.physique,sci.astro Subject: Re: Why does light bend under gravity? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 31 Message-ID: <96a2624b-cef5-4c38-82a8-47873d00f9ae@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <1de25376-cbdf-4a88-9c24-635b73e962f0@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <82fb1770-1633-4e2b-abd2-02b8f5e4ecee@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <YpBwj.12517$J41.7185@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> <pan.2008.02.25.17.17.58@canonicalscience.com> <47C31602.1030806@guesswhatuia.no> <k887s35r0tqpss2mmaj14d9v70qblsjt3v@4ax.com> <7ad9324e-a185-4be5-8d37-36608dda682a@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <6oe7s3t3ffk34ik95onbdq5i7ho1man8vh@4ax.com> <5d081222-5b36-4e82-b8d7-8900c2acbbc4@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <L_mBj.16850$Ch6.2540@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net> <4a84042b-1718-45a4-82f9-0e2b9fa12240@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <toRBj.16222$xq2.10827@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.159 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1205338171 7240 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2008 16:09:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.159; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)