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Article #16260Re: Pound Rebka
From: mitchgrav
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:15
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:15
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On Feb 11, 2:15 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 11, 1:09 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:53:42 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen" > > > <paul.b.ander...@guesswhatuia.no> wrote: > > >Max Keon skrev: > > >> "Eric Gisse" <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:cf7fd5a6-005e-4d73-aef9-ba788194923d@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > >How did you arrive at this remarkable conclusion? > > >It is wrong. > > > >f_h/f_o = (1-(GM/r)/c^2)/(1-(GM/R)/c^2)~= 1-(GM/r)/c^2 + (GM/R)/c^2 > > >where: > > > f_h = frequency of gamma photon at the top of the tower > > > f_o = frequency of gamma photon at the bottom of the tower > > > r = the distance centre of the Earth - top of tower > > > R = radius of the Earth (at the bottom of the tower) > > > > r = R + h, h = height of tower > > > f_h/f_o ~= (1 + ((GM/R)/c^2)(1 - R/(R+h)) > > > When h/R << 1 : > > > R/(R+h) ~= (1-h/R) > > > > f_h/f_o ~= 1 + ((GM/R)/c^2)(h/R) > > > g = GM/R^2 > > > > f_h/f_o ~= 1 + gh/c^2 > > > Which is in accordance with the Pound & Rebka experiment. > > > ...which is exactly in acordance with BaTh. > > > PE (per unit mass) at top = gh. > > Increase in KE as light falls = [1/2(c+v)^2]-[1/2c^2] = ~ cv > > So light has unit mass? Or did you forget that kinetic energy is > proportional to mass? > > > > > So: v = gh/c > > > f1/f_0 = (c+v)/c = [c + (gh/c)]/c = 1 + gh/c^2 > > > Strange, eh?...and much, much simpler than Einstein's nonsensical method of > > inserting a gradient into space in order to maintain a constant light speed. > > Poor stupid Ralph Rabbidge still can't separate cause and effect. > Constant light speed /causes/ what you call the gradient. > > > > > > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > > Einstein's Relativity is easy to understand if one has the IQ of a parrot and a gullibility index >0.95.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The extreme of the pound Rebka experiment would occur at the event horizon of the theoretical black hole. The blueshift and redshift become infinite in the Scharzschild metric or the end to time. The infinite Einstein shift produces infinite energy light falling in and zero energy light radiating outward. Zero and infinite energy light predicted by the extremes of the Einstein shift disprove event horizons and therefor black holes. The nonsense predictions disprove black holes. Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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